http://hornets.realgm.com/articles/17/20060714/hornets_just_stung_themselves/

We got plenty of them... is there anyone on their team you would want in return?

Anybody with an expiring contract. I'd send them Quentin Richardson. It would be too much to ask for them to take Francis off our hands.

I didn't open the link. Does it say the Hornets need a bad, overpaid SG?

New York Trade Breakdown
Outgoing

Nate Robinson
5-9 PG from Washington
9.3 ppg, 2.3 rpg, 2.0 apg in 21.4 minutes

Quentin Richardson
6-6 SG from DePaul
8.2 ppg, 4.2 rpg, 1.6 apg in 26.2 minutes
Incoming

Desmond Mason
6-5 SF from Oklahoma State
10.8 ppg, 4.3 rpg, 0.9 apg in 30.1 minutes
Change in team outlook: -6.7 ppg, -2.2 rpg, and -2.7 apg.

1st round pick

New Orleans Trade Breakdown
Outgoing

Desmond Mason
6-5 SF from Oklahoma State
10.8 ppg, 4.3 rpg, 0.9 apg in 30.1 minutes

1st round pick

Incoming

Nate Robinson
5-9 PG from Washington
9.3 ppg, 2.3 rpg, 2.0 apg in 21.4 minutes

Quentin Richardson
6-6 SG from DePaul
8.2 ppg, 4.2 rpg, 1.6 apg in 26.2 minutes
Change in team outlook: +6.7 ppg, +2.2 rpg, and +2.7 apg.

Posted by TMS:

imo, they need a backup PG more than they do a SG, since they can still play Desmond Mason at the 2 now that they have Peja starting at SF... how about a trade of Nate for a protected 2007 1st round pick? that clears up playing time for Mardy Collins this season & gets us another pick in next year's draft to add to Chicago's pick that will most likely be swapped w/ours... it also opens up a roster spot to enable the Knicks to re-sign both Jackie B & Qyntel Woods.

the signed bobby jackson so I think he's their plan for backup PG - i guess they think if they limit him enough he won't get hurt.

Yeah nice trade. Desmond mason has hops other than that he is balkman. Knicks would need mason to be a small fwd. No way do I start mason over Francis or craw. Mason is a limited player. If he couldn't sky where would he be right now?

With all that said with what I see from summer league there is a place for mason especially if he replaces q rich. At lest we know what would be getting with mason. Q is the biggest question mark on the team.

NO isn't going to make that trade & take on Q Rich's contract & give up Desmond Mason's expiring, even if they didn't have to give up that 1st rounder in the deal.

Posted by joec32033:

Posted by TMS:

NO isn't going to make that trade & take on Q Rich's contract & give up Desmond Mason's expiring, even if they didn't have to give up that 1st rounder in the deal.

I have seen much worse and more confusing trades take place (See Davis, Baron). NO has like maybe 10 players under contract and no real "leadership" in place.

I think getting Nate to play off the ball (especially with Paul) would be very beneficial to his career, while Q will give that outside shooting presence they do lack. NO also is a running team since PJ was not a running guy. Now they can commit fully to that offense-which fit both Q and Nate perfectly.

Peja IS outside shooting and Paul and DWest play a huge leadership role in NO. getting Bobby Jax adds to that.

suprisingly PJ actually was a key to their running. that 15 footer on the delayed break was a money play for them. 1 of Armstrong or Simmons hopefully can provide that for them esp since Chandler's history says he isn't.

Posted by McK1:

Posted by joec32033:

Posted by TMS:

NO isn't going to make that trade & take on Q Rich's contract & give up Desmond Mason's expiring, even if they didn't have to give up that 1st rounder in the deal.

I have seen much worse and more confusing trades take place (See Davis, Baron). NO has like maybe 10 players under contract and no real "leadership" in place.

I think getting Nate to play off the ball (especially with Paul) would be very beneficial to his career, while Q will give that outside shooting presence they do lack. NO also is a running team since PJ was not a running guy. Now they can commit fully to that offense-which fit both Q and Nate perfectly.

Peja IS outside shooting and Paul and DWest play a huge leadership role in NO. getting Bobby Jax adds to that.

suprisingly PJ actually was a key to their running. that 15 footer on the delayed break was a money play for them. 1 of Armstrong or Simmons hopefully can provide that for them esp since Chandler's history says he isn't.

Peja is injured constantly and isn't the money he once was. Paul and West are 2nd and 3rd year players respectively. PJ provided that vet stability.

If you said PJ's rebounding was a key to their running I'd be down, but his 15 footer a key to their running on a delayed break? I don't picture him a stop and pop trailer on the break, but I didn't catch many Hornet games so I could b wrong.

Posted by TMS:

Posted by joec32033:

Posted by TMS:

NO isn't going to make that trade & take on Q Rich's contract & give up Desmond Mason's expiring, even if they didn't have to give up that 1st rounder in the deal.

I have seen much worse and more confusing trades take place (See Davis, Baron). NO has like maybe 10 players under contract and no real "leadership" in place.

I think getting Nate to play off the ball (especially with Paul) would be very beneficial to his career, while Q will give that outside shooting presence they do lack. NO also is a running team since PJ was not a running guy. Now they can commit fully to that offense-which fit both Q and Nate perfectly.

& Mason's game doesn't translate to a running style game? come on man, Q Rich's contract is heinous & it's not insurable... there's no way we're going to get a team to take his deal unless we're taking an equally or more heinous contract back in return (i.e. KMart)

Sure the contract is an issue, and maybe the 1st rounder may be a little much-but DMase is a 3rd scorer on a good team who plays D. Q is more versatile in that he can post (if he is let loose to), shoot the 3, and drive. Mase's game is based on the drive, IMO. Giving them Nate definately puts this trade too much for my taste in their favor-hence the pick.

Q-rich has no value right now. The dude had a terrible season. Knicks would be lucky to trade him unless he shows up in shape and ready to play.

Desmond had some nice highlight dunks last year but other than that the dude quietly had a off year. He was hardly the scorer he showed in the past....on a good team he is darvin ham or the most a six man.

Desmond can definately help the knicks in on and off the court so if I was isiah I would have called them already about this. Masons role would be what we see from balkman in preseason. No way do we rely on a guy like him for anything but a finisher.