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if the knicks get to the second round of the playoffs this year
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eViL
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7/14/2006  12:05 AM
Awesome.
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7/14/2006  12:27 AM
Posted by eViL:

if the knicks get to the second round of the playoffs this year

Let's get to the first round, first.
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7/14/2006  12:40 AM
If the Knicks get to the 2nd round playing no defense then it won't be succesful.
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7/14/2006  12:47 AM
KNicks win a title playing no defense = terrible unsuccessful..........

[Edited by - Anji on 07-14-2006 12:47 AM]
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7/14/2006  12:47 AM
HAHA!! I just responded to see what would happen. I think RV tried to delete a thead-starting post, but the tread still remained. If the Knicks are good next year -- I'll be happy.
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7/14/2006  2:24 AM
Second round is my definition of significant progress for the season. I don't doubt we will play enough D to win games. That's all I ask.
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7/14/2006  2:33 AM
let's get to the playoffs first. Anything Less Zeke is gone
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7/14/2006  2:47 AM
Right, and first round Isaih is still on the bubble. Second round he stays.
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7/14/2006  6:51 AM
good call simrud...well, the key I've noticed is the coaching styles...

There is actually an offense AND a defense...and I'm serious about that defense...take a look at that washington game, it's like a 2-1-2 zone. Interesting and you can easily see why when there is a break, it always seems to be balkman leading it.

It's a zone man defense but it's not zone, because it's basically just switching off your man and continuing the flow, faking going around and under the screen, etc.

Isiah was mentioning that it's more about showing players what they need to do to be successful and opposed to just telling them.

He mentioned to clyde about the two guard alignment and it made tons of sense (ofcourse because that's how the knicks won their last championship).

Did willis reed run the floor? Yep, I mean, he was no amare, but he ran the floor about as much as curry can be expected to, and when you see the knicks run, the center isn't the player running, because of shifting man coverage up front, the breaks involve these players.

And the breaks are happing off makes and misses.

It's truly interesting to see a coach actually put in set plays.

If they knicks are ultra successfull, does another team take a chance at next town brown at his asking price, or does he become more of a historical hire (like memphis did with hubie Brown).

No more $10 mill salaries for sure.
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7/14/2006  8:50 AM
Posted by Anji:

KNicks win a title playing no defense = terrible unsuccessful..........

[Edited by - Anji on 07-14-2006 12:47 AM]

Thats the thing pal, you can't win a championship without playing pretty good defense.
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7/14/2006  8:51 AM
it's been 33 years.
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7/14/2006  8:54 AM
Posted by rvhoss:

it's been 33 years.

And lets hope thats where it stops.
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7/14/2006  9:06 AM
I think we have the defense.

Watching the summer league, I'm watching players reacting off of the other teams offense, switching on defense and basically not playing a cheeseball ZONE, but more of a box and 1, riley-like defensive scheme usually employed during the days when zones were illegal.

our wing defenders will eliminate the back door plays and with fry efilling the gaps (and balkman) we should be able to slow down the middle to lower of the pack teams.

The elite teams, as I see the knicks now, will still beat us, but we will be competitive against the older elite teams (detroit, miami).

defensively, we actually have a couple of players that could "slow down" wade, billups, rip in Qrich, Balkman and collins, but for an entire game, no way.

But this is just year one...or is it 34?
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7/14/2006  11:11 AM
i like our chance we see a better player in jcraw if he continues wat he did last year

we get a more experienced team eith n8 and company!!!!!

we get a perimeter defender in mardy collins

our boys become men with isiah and mark A running the show did u see how aguirre pushed these guys in the summer league

finally we get a coach who dosent bash his players and a coach they will comfortable wid
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7/14/2006  11:25 AM
I will be surprised if we win more than 32 games.
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7/14/2006  11:28 AM
not me.
Posted by BigC:

I will be surprised if we win more than 32 games.

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7/14/2006  11:38 AM
Let's have a winning season first. But yeah if they did manage to somehow get into the second round of the playoffs, it would be awesome
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7/14/2006  11:39 AM
Posted by rvhoss:

not me.
Posted by BigC:

I will be surprised if we win more than 32 games.

I think Isiah will do a good job but many teams are getting better and their wil always be injuries. So it will be very difficult to get a win. For example who do you think we can play against and it is going to be a guaranteed win?



[Edited by - BigC on 07-14-2006 11:39 AM]
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7/14/2006  11:43 AM
Posted by nyk4ever:

If the Knicks get to the 2nd round playing no defense then it won't be succesful.


By your logic, other than Miami, every other team in the league was unsuccessful.

If the Knicks make it to the playoffs, its called progress....
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7/14/2006  12:17 PM
PLease, every team in the playoffs at least play some defense. That was Chicago's M.O. and frequently held Miami down in that down. You have to play defense to advanse in the playoffs, even if you're the Suns. And yes, the Suns did play defense. No way they couldn't have, and advance to the WCFs. Defense is essential.
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if the knicks get to the second round of the playoffs this year

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