It starts at about 6:30 into it. This Grolic dude sounds like a has-been that is trying to be machismo for all his old frat boys and spends his time recollecting upon the number of beers he had at ND. I am not saying this touchy-feely crap is what I want from my players, but if they are objectively saying that IT provides a more positive environment, well, that's cool. Grolic doesn't understand people skills very well. (On the other hand, some might question IT's people skills )

Posted by EwingsGlass:

It starts at about 6:30 into it. This Grolic dude sounds like a has-been that is trying to be machismo for all his old frat boys and spends his time recollecting upon the number of beers he had at ND.

Before working for ESPN, Mike was a nine-year NFL veteran, playing defensive tackle for the Houston Oilers, Philadelphia Eagles, and Miami Dolphins where he accumulated 11.5 career sacks and 3 interceptions. Mike was a tenth round pick in the 1985 draft, taken 255th overall by the Houston Oilers.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Golic

I am not saying this touchy-feely crap is what I want from my players, but if they are objectively saying that IT provides a more positive environment, well, that's cool. Grolic doesn't understand people skills very well. (On the other hand, some might question IT's people skills )

I am not saying being a hardass all the time is the best way to motivate, but the last time I sounded like the Knicks rookies about a basketball coach, I think I was in 4th grade.

Posted by EwingsGlass:

11.5 sacks in 9 years. That's like 1.3 per year. Maybe he could have used a pat on the butt to get him motivated. I stand by my has-been statement, that is, unless he comes to my door ready to beat me up. Then I will apologize politely. Or keep the door locked.

LMAO!

Posted by joec32033:

Posted by TMS:

yeah, he went on that rant last week right after the critical comments of LB were made by our young guys... let's hope all of Isiah's butt patting & positive reinforcement will work this year... otherwise, we may have to hire this guy as our next head coach:

How about this guy...

OMG, is that Bonn?

Football player talking about a basketball player. Last I look Football coaches can pretty much abuse a player why? maybe because none of their contracts are guaranteed and they have to live with what coach says or its see you later. Basketball players have a lot more pull and have guaranteed contract or they with jake it. See, Marbury and Francis. But Golic really doesn't know the Knicks situation and obviously they will all pull Larry side with blinders on. But they really won't look to find out if Larry tanked to get fired. If anything these moron reporters should be looking into Larry's inability to coach the Knicks and the constant changing of the lineup. Try and find the truth about Larry playing the Knicks for a whopping $50 million.

We have been watching basketball for quite some time but how often have you guys heard a coach constantly go to reporter and ask for player change. I have never in my time watching sports hear a coach call for player change publically. Never, most coaches coach the talent given them and decide privately on moves to be made never publically.

Posted by BlueSeats:

The part about it being the result of a culture of negative veteran leadership was right on the money.

That was the best part of the clip. And we all know which veteran has the biggest influence on these young players. It all goes back to Isiah's first trade. It's the mistake that keeps on rotting this organization from the inside.

Posted by JohnWallace44:

There's a difference between LB being a hard ass and LB calling players out on a daily basis and changing the line-us just for the heck of it. Basketball, like football or any sport is all about results. Larry didn't preform... so he was a bad coach. If the team doesn't preform this year, then you know the players are awful.

I'll give you 2 points: #1 Any sport is all about results. #2 Larry didn't perform.

If you hold those to be true, most any coach/GM should be fired immediately in a down year. And there is a reason you hire GMs/coaches to 4 and 5 year contracts. It's because initially the team may slip in the first few years so that a long term program can be put into place.

What Golic is saying actually makes sense. It is in our culture right now that a player gets a trophy for participating. Kinda dilutes the whole spirit of sport. Why do you have to tell a player good job or great job to get them motivated? I coach my daughters travel softball team and I practice positive reinforcement but if a player makes a bonehead play or is not hustling, I inform them and correct their play.

I don't agree with the way Brown goes about getting his players to play, but a player needs to play and not worry about something he/she can't control. If you are given 10 min of play every other game then play hard and smart every other game when called upon.

this is all a part of the culture of losing that Bippity has been talking about for half a decade now. It's not enough to be a Knick nowadays. It's not enough to be an NBa player. It's not enough to be making millions of dollars. Now we have to pat you on the back and tell you how great you are or else you won't play hard. I'm with Blueseats in that I don't think this is a rookie issue. I think it's more of a veteran issue. We brought in a group of primadonnas, guys that never won but have been constantly told how great they are despite the fact thtat they have never won. You take 6 or 7 of those guys put them on the same team, have them produce the worst record in decades and what do they want? A pat on the back.

Here's my advice. Win some games and you will get all the pats on the back you want. Talking and whining and complaining means nothing. Win some gosh darn games.

I know our vets are talented but we really need to cut the fat before we end up adding three more players to the list of primadonnas. The fans not wanting to hurt anyone's feelings have bought into this nonsense.

Chicago Bulls for a few years targeted players with immense potential. These players helped them win games and become exciting but the team plateued because the players were not motivated. The players were not striving to win titles. The players were more concerned with the pats on the back and cheers they got after they bounced the ball on the floor or off the backboard and then did a windmill dunk. Chicago recognized the trend and decided to go away from this. They then decided to target guys from winning programs, that experienced winning that didn't have the "upside" of the Chandler's and Curry's of the world but had a will to win. They created a culture that is built around nothing but doing what it takes to win. Not individual skills and hire wire acts but doing what it takes to win. Once that was established magically Chicago became a place where free agents are now asking to go. did they take a step back when they traded Curry. Yes. But for how long? Minimal amount of time. Now look at them. This is what we in NY still refuse to do.

It's great that we are creating an atmosphere that will eliminate the bad blood that was spewed last year. I agree with this. But regardless of the atmosphere created my standards as a fan have not lowered like many of the rest of us. When you put on a NY uniform you come ready to play. You don't cry, you don't whine, you don't wish for a pat on the back. You realize where you are, what uniform you are wearing and you play your asse off. Enough is a goddamn enough!!!!!!!!!!!