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djsunyc
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6/25/2006  10:18 PM
http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews/sports/14901505.htm
There are no guarantees in free agency. Word is the Hawks are after Nene, the Cavs could retain Drew Gooden and Nazr Mohammed could stay in San Antonio with Rasho Nesterovic traded. The Sonics are concentrating on Chris Wilcox and Atlanta is rumored in a sign-and-trade deal with New York for Al Harrington.
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6/25/2006  10:50 PM
Cost?
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6/25/2006  10:58 PM
Posted by Rich:

Cost?


if they give them MO taylor both picks +3mm[to offset the taylor contract] they can max him out. its the fckn stupid move i know thats coming.
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6/25/2006  11:10 PM
Posted by BRIGGS:
Posted by Rich:

Cost?


if they give them MO taylor both picks +3mm[to offset the taylor contract] they can max him out. its the fckn stupid move i know thats coming.

thats ridiculous. mo and 2 picks AND cash? thats totally and utterly ridiculous.
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6/25/2006  11:11 PM
Ugh. The situation with the Knicks is pretty laughable for me now. We will never see a championship team. Ever.
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6/25/2006  11:18 PM
Posted by Killa4luv:
Posted by BRIGGS:
Posted by Rich:

Cost?


if they give them MO taylor both picks +3mm[to offset the taylor contract] they can max him out. its the fckn stupid move i know thats coming.

thats ridiculous. mo and 2 picks AND cash? thats totally and utterly ridiculous.
I Wouldn't make the trade but I don't think it's as bad as people are making it sound.

[Edited by - Bonn1997 on 06-25-2006 11:19 PM]
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6/25/2006  11:21 PM
If Isiah trades Mo T and both picks for Al Harrington re-signed at 5 years $50 mil, then that says to me Isiah is trying to bail himself out with another move and is going to just try to make the playoffs to save his job. AKA he doesn't trust what he's done and the players he has drafted/traded for/signed.

If Isiah stays at 20 and 29 (or even trades both of them to move UP and pick someone like Brewer), then that shows to me Isiah is confident in what he has and I will not be (at least not yet) praying for his failure.
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6/25/2006  11:27 PM
I just dont think Isiah should be allowed to add ANY contracts that go past 2008 because this team really needs to let some contracts come off the books and have the ability to sign players.
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6/25/2006  11:29 PM
Posted by nyk4ever:

I just dont think Isiah should be allowed to add ANY contracts that go past 2008 because this team really needs to let some contracts come off the books and have the ability to sign players.
I'd agree with that but it won't happen. If Isiah's replaced in Dec, then his replacement will trade the expiring contracts for someone whose jersey sales will bring in more immediate cash than the notion of cap space in three years will.

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6/25/2006  11:30 PM
Posted by Bonn1997:
Posted by nyk4ever:

I just dont think Isiah should be allowed to add ANY contracts that go past 2008 because this team really needs to let some contracts come off the books and have the ability to sign players.
I'd agree with that but it won't happen. If Isiah's replaced in Dec, then his replacement will trade the expiring contracts for someone whose jersey sales will bring in more immediate cash than the notion of cap space in three years will.

Let's hope not. If Dolan fired Brown then he should have a plan in place after firing a 2nd HOF coach in 3 years. I just want this team to have a freaking plan, is that so much to ask?
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6/25/2006  11:30 PM
I like Al Harrington.

He killed us at the Garden this season.

WE could def. use his def. rebounding, but he's so not worth 10 million a year. Hell, Tayshaun didn't get that much.

I'd give him 6 years 55 million, take it or leave it, and that's being generous.

Of course we'd STILL need more shotblockers on the team, which kinda makes the move pointless other than the fact that Isiah likes Al.
DLee is the best thing to happen to NY in Isiah's 4 year tenure. And that alone, though a positive on the radar, is sad as hell.
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6/25/2006  11:37 PM
only if we are playing him at the 4

that being said, I hope Isiah gets outbid. Al would increase the number to 9 players under contract and about 80 mill committed to the 08/09 cap

[Edited by - McK1 on 06-25-2006 11:42 PM]
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6/25/2006  11:46 PM
Posted by bobs3304:

I like Al Harrington.

He killed us at the Garden this season.

WE could def. use his def. rebounding, but he's so not worth 10 million a year. Hell, Tayshaun didn't get that much.

I'd give him 6 years 55 million, take it or leave it, and that's being generous.

Of course we'd STILL need more shotblockers on the team, which kinda makes the move pointless other than the fact that Isiah likes Al.

LOL No way Im giving him 10mm per, but 9.1 is OK. The Knicks overpay everyone--if this happens --its because were paying him way to much which scares off other suitors. Let me see how many scorers will we have? jalen curry francis marbury q rich crawford Frye nate then add harrington---yes genious add to the cohesion
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6/25/2006  11:54 PM
10 million per season sounds like the going rate for a player like AL. Hewould be an good addision at smallforward. It all depends on what the knicks have to give up for him.
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6/26/2006  12:15 AM
Posted by nyk4ever:

I just dont think Isiah should be allowed to add ANY contracts that go past 2008 because this team really needs to let some contracts come off the books and have the ability to sign players.


Why not? It's Dolan's money. The Knicks could be the first NBA team with a Billion dollar payroll.
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6/26/2006  12:51 AM
I don't mind the deal for AH, as long as we hold onto our picks.
I'm anxious to see who Isiah picks at #20 & #29 (and maybe can trade up).
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6/26/2006  12:57 AM
Posted by BRIGGS:
Posted by Rich:

Cost?


if they give them MO taylor both picks +3mm[to offset the taylor contract] they can max him out. its the fckn stupid move i know thats coming.


I agree....

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6/26/2006  2:11 AM
Getting Harrington would be stupid, I agree. I hope Isiah is smarter than that, but we'll see. If Harrington is his big move this summer, dissenters shouldn't worry, he'll go down in flames quickly.

apparently Atlanta is talking to Houston about pick swapping:

The majority of the buzz going late into Sunday night revolved around a trade that could finally bring some clarity to this year?s top 10. Numerous sources from around the league told DraftExpress that a draft day deal is in place between the Houston Rockets and Atlanta Hawks.

If consummated as expected, the Atlanta Hawks would draft Brandon Roy with the #5 pick in the draft and then trade his rights to the Houston Rockets in return for the rights to Shelden Williams (drafted 8th) and Luther Head. The trade would obviously hinge on both players being available at those spots.

This trade would bring closure to the long standing rumor that the Hawks have promised to draft Shelden Williams with the #5 pick. This is fueled by the fact that Williams has ?shut it down? and refused all workouts since the 3rd of June, when he worked out for the Boston Celtics. Williams cancelled workouts with both the Orlando Magic (drafting 11th) and the Minnesota Timberwolves (drafting 6th). Williams would step into a starting role in Atlanta immediately and would get his fair share of touches in the post, along with being the anchor of the Hawks? interior defense. Drafting Williams at #8 makes quite a bit more sense than at #5, and acquiring the rights to combo guardLuther Head is a step in the right direction for the Hawks.

In a somewhat surprising move, Brandon Roy decided to travel to Houston on Saturday to work out for the Rockets, after already canceling a trip to Charlotte to workout in front of Michael Jordan. Roy was unable to complete his Saturday workout with the Rockets, citing a hamstring injury that forced him to quit midway through. There is little doubt that he fits Houston?s needs to a T, though, perfectly complimenting both Yao Ming and Tracy McGrady and stepping into a position where he?d compete for a spot in the Western Conference Finals if the team can remain healthy.

An ironic twist to this trade would be the fact that both Roy and Williams are represented by the same powerful agent, Arn Tellem of Wasserman Media Group, who has become notorious for getting his clients drafted by the teams that he wants them at. The best example of that would be Tellem giving up guaranteed money in the short term and steering Kobe Bryant to the Los Angeles Lakers in 1996.

Tellem has reportedly been telling people over the past few days that three of his clients all have promises in the top 8, obviously referring to his top guns in this year?s draft, LaMarcus Aldridge, Brandon Roy and Shelden Williams.

From conversations we?ve had with teams both in and out of the lottery this past weekend, almost everyone now expects Aldridge to be drafted either #1 or #2, by the Toronto Raptors or Chicago Bulls.


http://draftexpress.com/viewarticle.php?a=1374

[Edited by - crzymdups on 06-26-2006 02:14 AM]
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6/26/2006  7:40 AM
Posted by nyk4ever:
Posted by Bonn1997:
Posted by nyk4ever:

I just dont think Isiah should be allowed to add ANY contracts that go past 2008 because this team really needs to let some contracts come off the books and have the ability to sign players.
I'd agree with that but it won't happen. If Isiah's replaced in Dec, then his replacement will trade the expiring contracts for someone whose jersey sales will bring in more immediate cash than the notion of cap space in three years will.

Let's hope not. If Dolan fired Brown then he should have a plan in place after firing a 2nd HOF coach in 3 years. I just want this team to have a freaking plan, is that so much to ask?
They DO have a plan in place. It's to always bring in as much immediate cash as possible. And it works very well for their goals.

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6/26/2006  8:29 AM
I'm not sure I understand why there is so much resistance to adding Harrington. He's only 26 and hittting his stride as a player. In 36.6mpg, he's avg'ing 18.6ppg, 6.8 reb, 3 ast, on 45% shooting, 34% from 3 and 69% FT's. He seems capable of filling our needs at SF for a long while. While he's not great, he's pretty good. He also can defend pretty well. If the cost isn't too high, I'd have no problem with him.

Curry, Frye, Harrington, Lee and Butler isn't a bad group of Frontcourt players. Frye can slide over to Center if we wanted. We could go with the player we draft and wait years to watch him grow to the level that Harrington is at now, but why do that?
quick rumor blurb: ny s&t for al harrington

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