Posted by McK1:

do memories of watching Artest implode and help crumble what started out as a COY season make him tighten the leash on Nate?

does he stop talking to Steph like he allegedly did Jamal if he doesn't see the floor the same way?

does Jalen Rose share his experience of being a Zeke lobbyist with management to a Zeke pariah with the impressionable youth?

is Curry eating cheeseburgers?

if so is he sharing with Crawford?

how does the pressure of firing the only person in the organization that has any credibility effect Thomas' continuancy with Plan "T"?

how does Isiah's contract status further add to the cooker?

Don't drink and type.

Posted by McK1:

" I guarantee there will be structure at the start of the season. The guys will not be confused for 82 games."

yep cause Isiah has such a track record for running a tight outfit.

82 games...he'll be lucky if he coaches 40.

Posted by islesfan:

Posted by Pharzeone:

Posted by EnySpree:

Posted by McK1:

" I guarantee there will be structure at the start of the season. The guys will not be confused for 82 games."

yep cause Isiah has such a track record for running a tight outfit.

82 games...he'll be lucky if he coaches 40.

larry Brown had the track record and didn't do his job....get off it already

I seen Mods try and dismiss the Knicks having a better record this upcoming year. Like it means nothing. All I have to say is that if the Knicks win 20 more games this upcoming season, Stern should make Brown personally hand Thomas COY award while wearing a dunce hat and handing him a personal check for $50 million.

You're kidding right? It's already happening. People are looking at a .500 record as some kind of amazing turnaround. Year 3 of Isiah's Reign of Error and a .500 record is something to be celebrated. The fact that the "talent" on this team is capable of maxing out at .500 is no cause for celebration. It's a cause for serious concern as to the future of the team and their ability to compete for championships in the next 5+ years.

Like I've said all along: We're going to be mired in mediocrity for the long term based on the moves that he's made.

That's no cause for celebration but there's no doubt that some of you are going to see it that way.

Posted by nyk4ever:

I just wanna throw this out there and be devils advocate, some of you might think I am the devil to begin with.

Anyways..If you think back about the teams that Isiah coached in Indy, he had some pretty good players. J'Oneal, Reggie Miller, Brad Miller, Ron Artest, Al Harrington, Jamaal Tinsley. These are really good players, how could Isiah not have NOT won with that team. How did they not advance past the 1st round on any occassion?

Posted by nixluva:

Posted by nyk4ever:

I just wanna throw this out there and be devils advocate, some of you might think I am the devil to begin with.

Anyways..If you think back about the teams that Isiah coached in Indy, he had some pretty good players. J'Oneal, Reggie Miller, Brad Miller, Ron Artest, Al Harrington, Jamaal Tinsley. These are really good players, how could Isiah not have NOT won with that team. How did they not advance past the 1st round on any occassion?

Apparently you haven't looked at his years in Indy in detail. He took the youngest team in the league to the playoffs after losing 3 starters from the finals team the year before. These guys are all names now, but not when Zeke 1st got them. I like this article from D'Alessandro:

http://www.nj.com/search/index.ssf?/base/columns-0/115104102741600.xml?starledger?coldal&coll=1

Decide for yourself if he has what it takes:

2000-01 -- He took over a Pacers team that cleaned house after reaching the NBA Finals. Rik Smits retired, Mark Jackson and Dale Davis were traded, and only one returning starter opened the season (Reggie Miller) because the real transition guy, Jalen Rose, missed the first month with a fractured wrist. This team shouldn't have cracked 35 wins. But they went 41-41, and with an average age of 24, they became the youngest team in the modern era to make the playoffs -- even took one game from conference champ Philly in the first round. It was a good start.
2001-02 -- Though Jermaine O'Neal officially became a stud, Thomas took a hit for the team's long-term growth by rewarding the point guard job to rookie Jamaal Tinsley. Al Harrington, the front-runner for Sixth Man honors, went down with an ACL tear in January. The starting lineup changed dramatically in February, with Rose -- an awful chemistry guy -- sent to Chicago for Ron Artest and Brad Miller. So, with a rookie point guard, major injury and roster turnover, Thomas still coaxed them into the playoffs by sweeping the last five games to finish 42-40 -- and then they nearly wrecked the Nets in the first round, losing in double overtime of Game 5.
2002-03 -- And the third year went from sublime and ridiculous. By Feb. 14, they were running away with it all -- 37 wins, 14 losses -- and when the roof fell in, none of it had to do with coaching. Artest's rampant jealousy of O'Neal wasn't visible to the public, but he got attention by punching basket supports. O'Neal's stepfather attempted suicide, with O'Neal literally walking in on the scene after the bullet entered his head. Tinsley's season was ruined by a regular commute from Virginia to be with his dying mother. The Millers had ankle injuries entering the postseason. They finished 11-20, went into the playoffs as the third seed, and were smacked by Jim O'Brien's Celtics in the first round again. Thomas' only real mistake was how he used Harrington, and that was enough for Larry Bird. In August, the new Pacers prez fired him.

People who are still bashing Isiah are just talking out of their hatred for him and a lack of knowledge.