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6/18/2006  9:11 AM
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/06/18/sports/b...rbury.html

June 18, 2006

In Coney Island, Marbury Has Message but No News
By HOWARD BECK

At the opening of his annual basketball tournament in Coney Island, Knicks point guard Stephon Marbury pledged yesterday to build "a new movement" to help children move out of poverty — and out of Coney Island.

Marbury, surrounded by a couple of dozen children, spoke of self-reliance and job creation and invoked the names of Oprah Winfrey, Jay-Z and Sean Combs.

Marbury grew up in the neighborhood's Surfside Gardens projects. His tournament, now in its 11th year, is held in honor of Jason Sowell, a high school teammate known as Juice who was shot and killed nearby in 1995.

"My message to the kids of Coney Island is: 'Don't want to live here. Don't want to be in Coney Island all your life,' " Marbury said. "And if somebody tells you different, don't deal with them people, because they want you to stay here. So what I'm doing is trying to give kids hope, and allow them to understand that with hard work and dedication, preparation, all of those different things, they'll be able to succeed."

Marbury spoke of creating jobs and other avenues out of poverty. He said he would pay barbers in his former neighborhood to give residents free haircuts.

He also said he would sponsor a line of low-cost sports apparel, to be marketed and sold by the Steve and Barry's chain, which has a location in Manhattan.

"The sneaker's going to be $14.98, the same exact shoe that you can go and spend $220 for," Marbury said. "What we're trying to do is allow kids to understand that we can still have the fly stuff, and we don't got to pay a whole bunch of money. The way how this world is right now, we need more people like me."

Marbury declined to talk about the Knicks — he chastised a reporter who asked about the team — but did mention Coach Larry Brown, who is expected to be fired soon. Brown and Marbury openly clashed throughout the season.

Marbury called the past year "the best year of my life," explaining that "my mind was trapped, and now my mind is free." When asked what opened him up, Marbury said, "Larry Brown."

"I love Larry Brown, period," he said. "I was tested. But that's all it was, was a test. I passed the test. I'm moving on to the next phase."

Marbury told reporters he would answer questions about the Knicks during a conference call today. A team spokesman later said that no call was planned.
''We don't have the luxury to take anybody lightly,'' New York's Quentin Richardson said. ''We're not that good.''
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6/18/2006  9:29 AM
"The way how this world is right now, we need more people like me."
I really respect this work Steph is doing. He's not a bad person by any means but he really doesn't know how to talk to the media and never learned anything about modesty.
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6/18/2006  9:41 AM
The cynic inside me, can't help but scream BULLSH!T..

But the one thing Marbury can't be knocked for, it's that he is generous. From the Katrina donation, to lavish gifts for his teamates, his annual summer leagues ,etc. Good for him, every Knick player should follow in suit.

On another note..

The most accurate thing I remember hearing since the regular season ended was SAS saying Marbury hadn't evolved or grown as a person. This could be a step in the right direction or a big PR move spearheaded by Isiah. Either way, Steph can't lose by cleaning up his act a little bit. Now practice these habits on the basketball court and it's all good.
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6/18/2006  9:45 AM
Posted by Bonn1997:
"The way how this world is right now, we need more people like me."
I really respect this work Steph is doing. He's not a bad person by any means but he really doesn't know how to talk to the media and never learned anything about modesty.

Athletes are the most arrogant people on the planet. You have to be in order to get up for the season year after year.

Everyone likes Dwayne Wade but I've heard him state the obvious "I'm rich" statement a couple times. He was doing celebrity bowling on ESPN and the announcer was getting on Wade cuz he missed a chance to catch 1st place. He was like "whatever man I'm rich!!". The mics picked it up and the announcer was uncomfortable for the rest of the segment. Gotta say that is pretty ****y. That's just one occation.
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6/18/2006  10:52 AM
A guy on the radio said this about Ozzie Guillen and it also applies to Steph:

"The man just doesn't have a governer cable between his brain and his mouth."
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6/18/2006  11:26 AM
This is why I like Stephon. I think he's genuinely a real good person and his one big flaw (As we all have) is that he's not so bright and doesn't know how to speak properly and sometimes just doesn't learn. It's unfortunate b/c I rooted really hard for the guy and I was cheering for him just as loud as anyone when he played great during that win streak in January. I just hope that sometime he'll be able to gain some humbleness for his own sake, b/c God knows he needs it.

At least he believes Larry really has helped him out.
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6/18/2006  11:27 AM
Posted by Allanfan20:

This is why I like Stephon. I think he's genuinely a real good person and his one big flaw (As we all have) is that he's not so bright and doesn't know how to speak properly and sometimes just doesn't learn. It's unfortunate b/c I rooted really hard for the guy and I was cheering for him just as loud as anyone when he played great during that win streak in January. I just hope that sometime he'll be able to gain some humbleness for his own sake, b/c God knows he needs it.

At least he believes Larry really has helped him out.

That's if you believe, he believes, you actually believe he actually believes Larry helped him out
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6/18/2006  11:31 AM
sounds like steph is desperate and may see the writing on the wall.

maybe he's the dead man walking? maybe he's not hearing anything from isiah or dolan to give him a vote of confidence? maybe he's bothered by the trade rumors? maybe he's worried that he burned his last bridge in new york? maybe isiah told him that he doesn't want to coach the team and he's asking dolan to keep lb? maybe maybe maybe?!?!?

btw, why is he allowed to talk?

sounds like he's making one last ditch effort not to get traded...at least that's how it's coming off.
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6/18/2006  11:33 AM
Posted by djsunyc:

sounds like steph is desperate and may see the writing on the wall.

maybe he's the dead man walking? maybe he's not hearing anything from isiah or dolan to give him a vote of confidence? maybe he's bothered by the trade rumors? maybe he's worried that he burned his last bridge in new york? maybe isiah told him that he doesn't want to coach the team and he's asking dolan to keep lb? maybe maybe maybe?!?!?

btw, why is he allowed to talk?

sounds like he's making one last ditch effort not to get traded...at least that's how it's coming off.

I love this skepticism about anything marbury says, but if Larry Brown speaks it's as if it came down on a stone tablet from the mountain tops. give the guy a break. maybe he was just saying what he felt.
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6/18/2006  11:34 AM
Posted by djsunyc:

sounds like steph is desperate and may see the writing on the wall.

maybe he's the dead man walking? maybe he's not hearing anything from isiah or dolan to give him a vote of confidence? maybe he's bothered by the trade rumors? maybe he's worried that he burned his last bridge in new york? maybe isiah told him that he doesn't want to coach the team and he's asking dolan to keep lb? maybe maybe maybe?!?!?

btw, why is he allowed to talk?

sounds like he's making one last ditch effort not to get traded...at least that's how it's coming off.

That last question is an absolute shocker. I thought there was a gag order on everyone affiliated with the team...
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6/18/2006  11:34 AM
Posted by crzymdups:
Posted by djsunyc:

sounds like steph is desperate and may see the writing on the wall.

maybe he's the dead man walking? maybe he's not hearing anything from isiah or dolan to give him a vote of confidence? maybe he's bothered by the trade rumors? maybe he's worried that he burned his last bridge in new york? maybe isiah told him that he doesn't want to coach the team and he's asking dolan to keep lb? maybe maybe maybe?!?!?

btw, why is he allowed to talk?

sounds like he's making one last ditch effort not to get traded...at least that's how it's coming off.

I love this skepticism about anything marbury says, but if Larry Brown speaks it's as if it came down on a stone tablet from the mountain tops. give the guy a break. maybe he was just saying what he felt.

of course he said what he felt. and it's coming off as desperate.

he's signing autographs "i want to die a knick" - how else are you supposed to take that?
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6/18/2006  11:39 AM
Posted by djsunyc:
Posted by crzymdups:
Posted by djsunyc:

sounds like steph is desperate and may see the writing on the wall.

maybe he's the dead man walking? maybe he's not hearing anything from isiah or dolan to give him a vote of confidence? maybe he's bothered by the trade rumors? maybe he's worried that he burned his last bridge in new york? maybe isiah told him that he doesn't want to coach the team and he's asking dolan to keep lb? maybe maybe maybe?!?!?

btw, why is he allowed to talk?

sounds like he's making one last ditch effort not to get traded...at least that's how it's coming off.

I love this skepticism about anything marbury says, but if Larry Brown speaks it's as if it came down on a stone tablet from the mountain tops. give the guy a break. maybe he was just saying what he felt.

of course he said what he felt. and it's coming off as desperate.

he's signing autographs "i want to die a knick" - how else are you supposed to take that?

he likes new york and doesn't want to be traded? maybe he's trying to counteract being made the scapegoat for last season, a season he didn't play most of the second of at anything near full strength. we were 5-17 in the games he missed, and until the last game against NJN the only times we won without Marbs were courtesy last second jumpers by Jamal.
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6/18/2006  11:46 AM
Posted by crzymdups:
Posted by djsunyc:
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Posted by djsunyc:

sounds like steph is desperate and may see the writing on the wall.

maybe he's the dead man walking? maybe he's not hearing anything from isiah or dolan to give him a vote of confidence? maybe he's bothered by the trade rumors? maybe he's worried that he burned his last bridge in new york? maybe isiah told him that he doesn't want to coach the team and he's asking dolan to keep lb? maybe maybe maybe?!?!?

btw, why is he allowed to talk?

sounds like he's making one last ditch effort not to get traded...at least that's how it's coming off.

I love this skepticism about anything marbury says, but if Larry Brown speaks it's as if it came down on a stone tablet from the mountain tops. give the guy a break. maybe he was just saying what he felt.

of course he said what he felt. and it's coming off as desperate.

he's signing autographs "i want to die a knick" - how else are you supposed to take that?

he likes new york and doesn't want to be traded? maybe he's trying to counteract being made the scapegoat for last season, a season he didn't play most of the second of at anything near full strength. we were 5-17 in the games he missed, and until the last game against NJN the only times we won without Marbs were courtesy last second jumpers by Jamal.

When Marbs says stuff like this it comes off as something like Edgar Allan Poe's "The Tell Tale Heart"...He's like the guy that buried the heart under the floorboards and keeps hearing it beating, even though noone else does. I have to agree it sounds like he is very nervous and he is afraid even though Isiah may still be in his corner, he may not feel that way.
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6/18/2006  11:49 AM
I'm always careful trying to interpret what Steph says - his communication skills are terrible, and he doesn't seem to realize it.

He may be very fond of Larry Brown, especially if Brown is not going to be the Knicks coach next year.
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6/18/2006  11:50 AM
yeah, I mean Marbury SHOULD be nervous. again, who knows? maybe Isiah hasn't spoken to him all summer and Marbury is feeling the Minnie trade winds blowing.

I just think Marbury is judged pretty harshly - this is a pretty genuinely generous guy. as crazy as he is, he gives a lot and I think he usually says what he means (which gets him into trouble). so when he says he wants to die a Knick, I think he may be nervous that he won't, but I also think he is being completely sincere.
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6/18/2006  11:52 AM
Posted by BasketballJones:

I'm always careful trying to interpret what Steph says - his communication skills are terrible, and he doesn't seem to realize it.

He may be very fond of Larry Brown, especially if Brown is not going to be the Knicks coach next year.

I think his communication skills are fine - he just doesn't have a PC filter. when he says, "I feel I'm the best point guard in the world," you KNOW every true athlete thinks they're the best. most just don't say it to a pack of reporters with cameras and tape recorders because they know it will blow up in their face. I don't know if Steph doesn't realize this or doesn't care, but I think he always pretty much says exactly what he's thinking at the moment.
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6/18/2006  11:54 AM
Posted by crzymdups:

yeah, I mean Marbury SHOULD be nervous. again, who knows? maybe Isiah hasn't spoken to him all summer and Marbury is feeling the Minnie trade winds blowing.

I just think Marbury is judged pretty harshly - this is a pretty genuinely generous guy. as crazy as he is, he gives a lot and I think he usually says what he means (which gets him into trouble). so when he says he wants to die a Knick, I think he may be nervous that he won't, but I also think he is being completely sincere.

Judging a guys performance(or non performance) on the court has nothing to do with why alot of people are ok with trading Steph. Artest is one of the MOST generous guys in the NBA-look at his rep on the court. Marbury very well could be the most generous guy in the NBA. Noone has ever knocked him off the court unless he comes out of the blue with statements like these uber-hyperbole ones he makes. He gets knocked alot mainly for his performance on the court an seemingly ultra-primadonna attitude.
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yeah, I mean Marbury SHOULD be nervous. again, who knows? maybe Isiah hasn't spoken to him all summer and Marbury is feeling the Minnie trade winds blowing.

I just think Marbury is judged pretty harshly - this is a pretty genuinely generous guy. as crazy as he is, he gives a lot and I think he usually says what he means (which gets him into trouble). so when he says he wants to die a Knick, I think he may be nervous that he won't, but I also think he is being completely sincere.

it doesn't matter what kind of guy you are outside of basketball. as long as you win, that's all that matters. that's why guys like kobe, who was accused of rape, was still cheered at home. guys like zo, who sh tted on nj, is still cheered in miami and lauded on abc. guys like jkidd who beat his wife, are heralded as one of the greatest pg's of all time. or very charitable guys like h20 would get booed at the garden b/c of his $100 mil deal and the knicks not winning his last few years.

there has to be seperation of bball player and the off court person. lb is a prick but is only tolerated b/c he knows how to coach. steph is a prick but isn't tolerated b/c his teams don't win.

winning is everything. forget about getting judged harshly or not. these guys get paid MILLIONS upon MILLIONS. that's why i could care less about lb's feelings. i want him back as coach but i'm don't feel sorry for him. he'll have enough money from this contract alone where his great great great grandkids won't have to work.
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6/18/2006  11:56 AM
DJ wouldn't that contradict the theory that Marbury has more juice than Brown?? And that Brown is being moved because how he treated the "golden child" Marbury.

Didn't Brown say in his own words that he didn't want to do to Marbury what other teams have done. And that he didn't want to trade Marbury unless it was for a Kobe type of player. So if Brown wants Marbury gone as bad as some of you think. Then wouldn't that make him a liar.
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6/18/2006  11:57 AM
I'm not talking about judging Steph as a player, that's obviously different. I'm talking about accusing him of Machiavellian scheming. especially when so many people seem to take Next Town Brown at his word.
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