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EnySpree
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6/7/2006  9:38 AM
Dolan wants to hold onto LArry Brown for the entire off-season unlill all the coaching jobs are taken in the NBA....

I guess that would be a good trade off for the 40 mill Brown is gonna get. At least Dolan won't have to pay the guy then imediately see him get another big time coaching job.

If this is the case, cuz this is just my great mind at work, then good job playing hardball Mr.Dolan.
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6/7/2006  9:50 AM
Posted by EnySpree:

Dolan wants to hold onto LArry Brown for the entire off-season unlill all the coaching jobs are taken in the NBA....

I guess that would be a good trade off for the 40 mill Brown is gonna get. At least Dolan won't have to pay the guy then imediately see him get another big time coaching job.

If this is the case, cuz this is just my great mind at work, then good job playing hardball Mr.Dolan.

What is the leverage. If Larry can get another job Dolan can negotiate a smaller payout. If he flat out fires him, he will not let him work for another team and pay him. He did not let JVG go and held out for a 2nd round pick for the Rockets.

My guess he wants Larry to work elsewhere. If Larry does not want to coach anymore, then he will get every dime of his 40mil.



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6/7/2006  9:50 AM
he actually saves money if he gets another job. the new contract would be subtracted off the current one from dolan.

there are a few possibilites here:

1. lb is going to get fired.
2. lb is not going to get fired.
3. lb AND isiah are going to get fired.
4. lb is not going to get fired but isiah is.
5. NEITHER lb or isiah get fired.

they may know already what their fate is and are jerking around the media. but as a result, they are alienating their fanbase. or they really have no clue what they're doing.

too many possible scenarios...too many theories.

mine? dolan is seriously considering letting him go but after the initial rumor leaked, the negative backlash was so overwhelming that he had to reconsider his decision.

does he stay? i have no idea.

whatever the case, this should not be applauded or endorsed b/c it makes the team look like an even bigger joke and pretty much destroyed all credibility the team has left. the fanbase is beaten down and it will take some time to change the image of the team to a positive one.
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6/7/2006  10:17 AM
the best thing Dolan could do right now IF he's already decided to get rid of Brown, is to let him talk to other teams to become their head coach... that way at least we can get back a draft pick for his services... simply firing will only satisfy Dolan's desire to humiliate LB even further, but does nothing to help the organization at all.
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6/7/2006  10:19 AM
Dolan just wants to make Brown squirm. I think Dolan thinks this is embarassing for Brown and while it surely is, I wonder if Dolan realizes how bad this makes him and Isiah look.
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6/7/2006  10:20 AM
Also, I said this in another thread somewhere, but I think Zeke is definitely trying to stall Dolan to see what he can get in the trade market. If the only trade he can find is for Marbury, it might actually make sense to bring Brown back. Maybe Zeke has realized he has a better shot at surviving if he ties his star to Brown than to Marbury.
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6/7/2006  10:25 AM
Larry is teflon

he's going to get 40 mill for coaching or not coaching.

Isiah and Dolan's approval ratings are in the toilet
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6/7/2006  10:26 AM
I don't feel alienated at all, for the record.
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6/7/2006  10:26 AM
Pearl of wisdom on Larry, Knicks

Not that Jim Dolan is much for advice from sensible people, but for what it's worth, one Knick legend said yesterday that he hopes the Garden boss will give Larry Brown a shot at turning around the fortunes of the Knicks - some of whom need to wise up and start working with their coach and one another.

"The coach probably lost them early in the season, and they never played for him after that - not all of them, but a lot of them," Earl Monroe told the Daily News yesterday. "This is a different athlete today than back when I was playing the game. Guys today, they're not as close, they don't always work out their problems together.

"Everyone's got to be able to listen. That's on the players."

Monroe, the slick Knick guard from 1971-80 whose No.15 hangs from the Garden rafters, spoke yesterday as he prepared to hit the road for a summer-long nationwide tour aimed at raising awareness of BPH, a common prostate disorder that affects the bladder, and from which Monroe suffers (www.oneweekchallenge.com). He doesn't plan on giving any roadside interviews, but while he's away, he's hoping his old team refrains from telling Brown to take a hike.

"I definitely think they should try it one more year," Monroe said. "I'd like to see the man get a chance."

Monroe, an occasional voice on Knick radiocasts, also still thinks it's possible for Brown and his unpredictable point guard, Stephon Marbury, to coexist and thrive. And the man they call "The Pearl" sees promise in the man who calls himself "Starbury."

"When I came to New York (in a November 1971 trade), I started deferring to all the guys that were there," Monroe said. "And Red Holzman sat me down and said, "You're losing your ego. You gotta get your ego back.' And soon enough, I was an All-Star.

"I think (Marbury) gets a bad rap sometimes. You gotta have a little ego."
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6/7/2006  10:28 AM
the sentiment is mainly universal - former/current players and coaches believe lb should be back.
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6/7/2006  10:42 AM
"I think (Marbury) gets a bad rap sometimes. You gotta have a little ego."

Marbury's probably the most arrogant player in the NBA... you also have to know how to be humble once in a while.
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6/7/2006  10:48 AM
way to turn the marbury kudos into a bashing session TMS
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6/7/2006  10:54 AM
i make 1 comment & all of a sudden i turned the entire thread around to a bashing session... i didn't realize i had so much power... my bad.
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6/7/2006  11:32 AM
oh baby, but you do. you own this board baby.

I was reading an article on gary payton on how surly he is...marbs has that, and have you ever met anybody from brookly that is humble once in a while...besides when the jury says guilty...and even then I'd say they tell the judge to go to hell.

You can take the kid out of coney island, but you can't take coney island out of the kid...

Iverson is a cartoon version of Marbury...he is what he is...Coney Island's finest.
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6/7/2006  11:44 AM
stupid to fire him after 1 bad year.

we've got 2 picks this year in a draft class full of guys who almost all seem ready to contribute. Work together and find guys who best fit the coaching philosophy and go from there.

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6/7/2006  11:59 AM


All this is media fueled...This all started because of some writer claiming a "source" said that Dolan is going to fire Brown.

To this day no one in the organization as made a negative or positive comment on this and I agree with this stand. Why entertain these clowns? Keep them guessing...their going to write what they want anyway..

no one is getting fired this year...
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6/7/2006  12:00 PM
Posted by TMS:

i make 1 comment & all of a sudden i turned the entire thread around to a bashing session... i didn't realize i had so much power... my bad.

Marbury is extremely arrogant and the result of that arrogance often appears on the basketball court when he won't change his ways to better the team, no matter what the circumstances.
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6/7/2006  12:23 PM
Posted by rvhoss:

oh baby, but you do. you own this board baby.

I was reading an article on gary payton on how surly he is...marbs has that, and have you ever met anybody from brookly that is humble once in a while...besides when the jury says guilty...and even then I'd say they tell the judge to go to hell.

You can take the kid out of coney island, but you can't take coney island out of the kid...

Iverson is a cartoon version of Marbury...he is what he is...Coney Island's finest.


apparently i have more power than i thought.

as for "Coney Island's finest", i'll take a couple orders of these over Marbury anyday:

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I think I know why they haven't fired Brown

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