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djsunyc
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5/30/2006  9:42 PM
Bulls latest to reap benefit of dealing with Isiah
Sunday, May 28, 2006

For the sake of accuracy, it should be noted that Isiah Thomas has already won one title as an NBA executive. Of course, that title is in San Antonio, which would not have won the hardware last season without the addition of Nazr Mohammed. .

He's also built a title contender with a four- or five-year shelf life in Phoenix, which used the Stephon Marbury deal to create cap space and sign Steve Nash.

He's contributed mightily to the renovation project in Toronto, which dumped Jalen Rose's $17 million salary on the Knicks, allowing the Raptors to be players in the free-agent market a year ahead of schedule.

And now, in this week's edition of Zeke the Munificent, let us consider what he's done for the Chicago Bulls -- knowing that if history is any guide, the Bulls will probably hit a home run.

As you know, the Bulls shipped Eddy Curry out seven months ago with this summer in mind: They convinced the Knicks to take his contract, which still has five years and $48.4 million to run, for what became the No. 2 pick in the draft after the lottery balls were shuffled Wednesday night.

And though John Paxson is trying to contain himself, he's got a lousy poker face.

"Eddy Curry's a very good basketball player," the Bulls GM said. "We made the deal reluctantly, we were lucky enough to get into the lottery and we got the second pick. Eddy's talented and he's going to get better, so we'll leave it at that."

Nobody was buying the reticence bit, so Pax added, "This is like found money, I guess. You feel fortunate that you're here. I'm not smart enough to say we knew this was going to happen."

Well, it happened, and look at what the Bulls have now. They already possess one of the best young cores in the NBA, with four guys capable of making an All-Star team someday. Thanks to the subtraction of Curry, they will have at least $15 million in cap space, which is enough to land them an A-list free agent -- Al Harrington or Peja Stojakovic, perhaps -- in a market that doesn't really have many A-list players.

And now, they have the No. 2 pick. Even though the draft may be short of stars, Paxson expects to find a big body who can develop with the rest of the Baby Bulls. At the top of his list are Tyrus Thomas and LaMarcus Aldridge. Or he can move the pick for an experienced big, such as Samuel Dalembert or Jamaal Magloire.

"Our needs are athleticism and length, and they'll be some guys at the top of the draft," Paxson said. "But we can also explore options in moving that pick. We like our young guys. But we have to ask ourselves if we're too young. Is there a way to get better to help us continue to be not only a playoff team, but a very good playoff team? Those are the questions we're going to be debating now."

Speaking of debates, what have the Knicks gained, exactly?

For all the missteps made by the Wrong Way Dolans, it's hard to find a GM who is ready to conclude that the Knicks blundered when they made the Curry deal -- yet. That proclamation is still a year or two away.

But for now, this assessment was typical:

"Are the Bulls going to get a better player than Curry? No," one Eastern Conference GM said. "But for all the things that are going wrong in New York, Curry's underachievement just multiplies it. Everyone likes his offensive ability, and he still has upside, but he's gradually moving toward bust. Either he doesn't love the game, or he's uncoachable. Because he sure doesn't hustle on defense, and he just isn't maturing at an acceptable rate."

It certainly wasn't an acceptable pace to Scott Skiles, who couldn't stand him.

Regardless of what Curry becomes, regardless of what the Bulls do at the No. 2 slot -- trade, keep, or blow it -- at least they have options the Knicks can only dream of.

"Whatever way we decide to go," Paxson said, "this gives us a great chip in the game."
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simrud
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5/31/2006  1:17 AM
2nd pick eh.

IT should burn in hell for that fing trade. I hate him, and thats that.
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5/31/2006  10:45 AM
Posted by simrud:

2nd pick eh.

IT should burn in hell for that fing trade. I hate him, and thats that.

Hear, hearI
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5/31/2006  10:52 AM
Everyone likes his offensive ability, and he still has upside, but he's gradually moving toward bust. Either he doesn't love the game, or he's uncoachable. Because he sure doesn't hustle on defense, and he just isn't maturing at an acceptable rate."
this is exactly what I saw and what scares me. Heck, we saw Sweetney progress more in his limited time than we saw from Curry all year. We all know he will get points while he's on the floor but his defense is deplorable and its lacking in effort and hustle. He doesnt play like he's hungry and that scares me. Hell... Frye sucked on defense but it wasnt because he wasnt trying. You could see him moving his feet and hustling. He was just caught in the wrong positions too often. Curry just stands there and looks dumb. He's not much for boxing out either.
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5/31/2006  10:55 AM
Posted by OAK:
Posted by simrud:

2nd pick eh.

IT should burn in hell for that fing trade. I hate him, and thats that.

Hear, hearI


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5/31/2006  12:24 PM
Burn in Hell?

The person who should burn in hell traded Scott Kazmir

I propose a moratorium on all speculation about draft picks since Dat Ol' Debbil Isiah mortgaged "The Future"

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20. New York owns San Antonio's 2006 1st round pick from the Nazr Mohammad/Malik Rose trade (conditional).

29. New York receives Denver's 2006 1st round pick (top 5 protected) from Antonio Davis/Jalen Rose trade

Party on dudes
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5/31/2006  12:51 PM
Posted by misterearl:

Burn in Hell?

The person who should burn in hell traded Scott Kazmir

I propose a moratorium on all speculation about draft picks since Dat Ol' Debbil Isiah mortgaged "The Future"

Knicks

20. New York owns San Antonio's 2006 1st round pick from the Nazr Mohammad/Malik Rose trade (conditional).

29. New York receives Denver's 2006 1st round pick (top 5 protected) from Antonio Davis/Jalen Rose trade

Party on dudes

Wow, you mean we got the 20th and 29th picks in this years draft? Isiah is unbelievable. That's so much better than having the #2 overall pick this year and our #1 pick next year.

How's Victor doing? Can he bend his elbow yet?
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5/31/2006  5:15 PM
I love this article. It’s typical. The headline has this bold proclamation about how the Bulls are on this threshold of greatness, then you read the column and it’s littered with qualifiers and caveats. The Bulls have MILLIONS in cap room...but this is a weak free agent pool with guys like Peja and Al Harrington as the centerpieces. The Bulls have THE NUMBER 2 pick...yet this is considered to be one of the weaker drafts in years.

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5/31/2006  5:19 PM
Posted by sebstar:

I love this article. It’s typical. The headline has this bold proclamation about how the Bulls are on this threshold of greatness, then you read the column and it’s littered with qualifiers and caveats. The Bulls have MILLIONS in cap room...but this is a weak free agent pool with guys like Peja and Al Harrington as the centerpieces. The Bulls have THE NUMBER 2 pick...yet this is considered to be one of the weaker drafts in years.

The point is that they're in much better shape than we are, and we had something to do with that.
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6/1/2006  7:31 AM
we had everything to do with it. Think about it... Eddy Curry was gone regardless. He wasnt going back to the Bulls. Everyone knew this. My 5 year old daughter knew this. So here's Chi with a young player they know they are losing.

ring ring >>>> John, It's Isiah Thomas
(Pax mutes the phone) THANKS FREAKIN GOOOD!!! YEEEEEEAAAAAA BABY!!!!
John >> Hey Zeke
(play out anal rape scene in your head or refer to Nalod's Pulp Ficton reference)
5 minutes later the Bulls have Sweetney, a first round draft pick and the rights to move up the following year for a player they were kissing goodbye to. Hello 2nd pick in the draft.

Sorry... this trade is pretty close to Kazmir stupid.
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bulls latest to reap benefit of dealing with isiah (article)

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