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djsunyc
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5/26/2006  8:33 AM
Find owner in the club, & Ewing as assistant?

BY FRANK ISOLA
DAILY NEWS SPORTS WRITER

If Larry Brown really wants an audience with Garden chairman James Dolan, he may have to pay a cover charge.

Dolan's band, JD and the Straight Shot, is scheduled to play at a midtown club, Coda, on Thursday. Can't you just see Brown holding a beer in one hand, a cigarette lighter in the other, while rocking his head to the music? Maybe not.

Brown has wanted to meet with Dolan since the end of the season and especially since reports surfaced two weeks ago that Dolan is considering buying out Brown's contract and replacing him with team president Isiah Thomas. The Knicks have neither confirmed nor denied the reports.

Brown will return to the Knicks' training facility this morning for another round of draft workouts. As of last night, Dolan had not scheduled a meeting with Brown.

The Knicks continue to say things are business as usual and Brown is apparently taking that same approach. According to sources, Brown is considering hiring Patrick Ewing to the coaching staff.

Ewing, currently an assistant with the Houston Rockets, has talked to the Knicks in recent years about rejoining the organization but has never been offered a coaching position. Ewing turned down a chance to join the Nets' coaching staff last season.

However, Ewing has wanted to return to the New York area, where he recently purchased a home.

If Ewing joins Brown's staff, that could mean that Brown is trying to move out two of Thomas' close associates, Mark Aguirre and George Glymph. Both Aguirre and Glymph came to New York two weeks after Thomas was hired and Brown inherited the two plus Herb Williams.

Brown brought in Dave Hanners, Phil Ford and Brendan O'Connor from the Pistons last summer. It is unclear if the Knicks promised Brown that he could eventually hire an entire coaching staff.

Of course, there is a strong chance that Brown will not be back. Brown's agent, Joe Glass, said that his client has no interest in negotiating a buyout, while sources indicate that Dolan would not hesitate to fire Brown and simply pay him the $40 million that Brown is owed over the next four years.

Dolan's concert will be his first public appearance since the season ended. In an interview with the Daily News in January, Dolan said he was reluctant to play a New York venue because of his association with the Knicks.

"I don't think as a town New York would give us a fair shake," Dolan said then. "I thought it would be about the Knicks and the Rangers and the cable bill and all that crap."
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5/26/2006  8:50 AM
Knick fans should go to the performance and make signs!

Be heard!

Ewing as assistant, that will make it all better.

Now we starphuch with assistant coaches! Cool.

whats next, ball boys? Trainers?

Thirsday nite. Ultimate knicks should make an outing and be heard.

A petition of sorts.
djsunyc
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5/26/2006  8:51 AM
if anything - this would be a good PR move for a team desperately needing one.

i'm not sure of the legitimacy of it but it can't hurt.
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5/26/2006  9:00 AM
whether genuine or not, its a slick move by Brown

HUGE sentiment garnering starphuch. Dolan and Zeke trying to match wits with a master of these end games is comical.

in the end its going to cost Dolan all 40 and whatever credibility he and Isiah had left.

Next story you read about Brown won't be about the 23 win season but more likely him coaching some 12 year olds to a rec league championship in the Hamptons.

Meanwhile Dolan Mills and Isiah will continue to be laughingstocks in the press from here to Japan.
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5/26/2006  10:45 AM
I'm not sure if Ewing is still under contact with Houston, but...

It would be nice to see him working with Mark as our big-man trainers. Teaching post moves, shot blocking drills, pick and rolls, etc. Anything to speed up the development of Curry would be a plus, but as others mentioned. This seems like it would be a total PR move, if anything at all.
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5/26/2006  10:46 AM
I'm not sure what kind of coach Ewing is. He was a great player with guts and will, but never a vocal leader or a guy that came off as a teacher/mentor type.
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5/26/2006  10:55 AM
Great move by Brown! Aguirre so far has had 0 results while working with the big men, I have not seen ANY of them improve that much under his watch, time to try out a new one, the best big man in Knicks history!
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5/26/2006  11:16 AM
I thought he was brought to Houston, specifically for working with Yao..

Curry needs to improve his back-to-the-basket game big time. Learning that little drop step into the lane or refining and up-and-under move would be nice. I'm not expecting turn around j's or anything, but little things. Shot blocking is an anticipation type skill, but things like reaching out with the off-hand has gotten Eddy the foul; on otherwise a clean block. If we're going to develope youth, having a guy like Pat around would do nothing but help, if you ask me. Frye could benefit the most, as his slight frame and range translate closer to Ewing imo.
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5/26/2006  11:17 AM
Ewing was the master with the Juice Card.

Between Larry and Patrick thats a lot of Juice.

THe anti-defimation league is upset cuz they thought Steph said about Larrys: "Jews card!"

It has since cleared up.
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5/26/2006  11:19 AM
Posted by gr33d:

I thought he was brought to Houston, specifically for working with Yao..

Curry needs to improve his back-to-the-basket game big time. Learning that little drop step into the lane or refining and up-and-under move would be nice. I'm not expecting turn around j's or anything, but little things. Shot blocking is an anticipation type skill, but things like reaching out with the off-hand has gotten Eddy the foul; on otherwise a clean block. If we're going to develope youth, having a guy like Pat around would do nothing but help, if you ask me. Frye could benefit the most, as his slight frame and range translate closer to Ewing imo.

I can't tell if your saying that Ewing won't be let go because he's been working with Yao or your saying Ewing was brought there and Yao hasn't developed. I'm going to assume the later. Before Yao had that season ending injury last year he was playing the best ball of his professional life, posting 22 and 10 for the year and he averaged 27 and 11 in Febuary. I think Pat did a fine job with him.
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5/26/2006  11:55 AM
Posted by nyk4ever:
Posted by gr33d:

I thought he was brought to Houston, specifically for working with Yao..

Curry needs to improve his back-to-the-basket game big time. Learning that little drop step into the lane or refining and up-and-under move would be nice. I'm not expecting turn around j's or anything, but little things. Shot blocking is an anticipation type skill, but things like reaching out with the off-hand has gotten Eddy the foul; on otherwise a clean block. If we're going to develope youth, having a guy like Pat around would do nothing but help, if you ask me. Frye could benefit the most, as his slight frame and range translate closer to Ewing imo.

I can't tell if your saying that Ewing won't be let go because he's been working with Yao or your saying Ewing was brought there and Yao hasn't developed. I'm going to assume the later. Before Yao had that season ending injury last year he was playing the best ball of his professional life, posting 22 and 10 for the year and he averaged 27 and 11 in Febuary. I think Pat did a fine job with him.

Sorry, I wasn't more clear NYK4, but you got me all wrong.. I repsonded to someone else who said they didn't think he was the teaching/mentoring type. Look back in the thread a little bit.

My point was that "if" we were kicking around the idea of bringing Ewing back, it would be a good move. Curry and Frye could benefit from having him around (as did Yao). I'm not sure how contracts for assistant coaches work, but I doubt JVG would want him to go :)
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5/26/2006  12:13 PM
Posted by gr33d:


Sorry, I wasn't more clear NYK4, but you got me all wrong.. I repsonded to someone else who said they didn't think he was the teaching/mentoring type. Look back in the thread a little bit.

My point was that "if" we were kicking around the idea of bringing Ewing back, it would be a good move. Curry and Frye could benefit from having him around (as did Yao). I'm not sure how contracts for assistant coaches work, but I doubt JVG would want him to go :)

Ahh, my bad Gr33d! Your right, I think our bigs would really improve, especially Frye, like you said. But your right, why would JVG let him go?
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5/26/2006  2:03 PM
I don't think JVG would stand in Ewing's way if that's what he wanted to do.
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5/26/2006  3:23 PM

Patrick is my all time favorite Knick, but the stunt he pulled at the end of his career that has the Knicks in this current state is just unforgivable...I don't want to see him on the sidelines or in any part of the organization again...He had the chance to be the company guy and go out quietly and help the organization...He didn't..He screwed us royally and we are still reeling from that trade....He could have been in this organization for life if he did the right thing....It's too soon, please keep him away....



[Edited by - holfresh on 05-26-2006 3:23 PM]
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5/26/2006  3:35 PM
stunt? were you not around during 99-2000? the media was openly questioning whether the team was better with or without ewing. fans were blasting ewing left and right as were the media. players on the team were questioning it also. and the organization did not back him up. he was fed up and asked out. he didn't pull a "stunt"
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5/26/2006  3:54 PM
Yeah man, it was simply b/c of that Indiana series that people questioned if the KNicks were better w/o him. Meanwhile, people didn't realize that it's big gluts like him that started the fastbreaks even more by grabbing the rebounds and blocking shots. We probably would have beat Indiana in 5 games with him instead and we would have at least taken San Antonio all the way, if not beat them. People are so stupid.
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5/26/2006  4:17 PM
Posted by djsunyc:

stunt? were you not around during 99-2000? the media was openly questioning whether the team was better with or without ewing. fans were blasting ewing left and right as were the media. players on the team were questioning it also. and the organization did not back him up. he was fed up and asked out. he didn't pull a "stunt"

Yeah a stunt...Ewing could have done what David Robinson did and played a secondary roll to Camby and the way Robinson did with Duncan...He clearly lost a step at the time...Who cares what the media and fans thinks...Everyone would have excepted his deminshed roll if thats what he wanted...The reason why players question him was because he still wanted to be the focus of the offense and the team had Houston, Sprew and Camby as their new nucleus....Yeah I was around, what were you watching at the time???



He forced a trade because he thought he should still should have been the team's nucleus...He was pissed at JVG because of this...Fans and media was riding him because he didn't want to accept his deminsihed roll...



[Edited by - holfresh on 05-26-2006 4:26 PM]
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5/26/2006  4:48 PM
Posted by holfresh:



He forced a trade because he thought he should still should have been the team's nucleus...He was pissed at JVG because of this...Fans and media was riding him because he didn't want to accept his deminsihed roll...



[Edited by - holfresh on 05-26-2006 4:26 PM]

He was so mad at JVG that he accepted a assistant coaching job under him!
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5/26/2006  4:53 PM
Posted by nyk4ever:
Posted by holfresh:



He forced a trade because he thought he should still should have been the team's nucleus...He was pissed at JVG because of this...Fans and media was riding him because he didn't want to accept his deminsihed roll...



[Edited by - holfresh on 05-26-2006 4:26 PM]

He was so mad at JVG that he accepted a assistant coaching job under him!



Well Jeff had to return the favor...After all, Jeff would not have gotten the Knick job after Riles if Ewing didn't push for it...

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5/26/2006  4:55 PM
Posted by holfresh:
Posted by nyk4ever:
Posted by holfresh:



He forced a trade because he thought he should still should have been the team's nucleus...He was pissed at JVG because of this...Fans and media was riding him because he didn't want to accept his deminsihed roll...



[Edited by - holfresh on 05-26-2006 4:26 PM]

He was so mad at JVG that he accepted a assistant coaching job under him!



Well Jeff had to return the favor...After all, Jeff would not have gotten the Knick job after Riles if Ewing didn't push for it...


I dont know Hollie, theres alot of If's and But's in that argument. Possible? Maybe. Ewing pulling a stunt? Unlikely. It seems to me that you just go against everything that everyone else is for so you can create controversey.. just a assumption though.
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