@bos - steph, q, barnes, ad, ec
was - steph, q, barnes, ad, ec
nyk - steph, q, barnes, ec, jj
@por - steph, jc, q, ad, ec
@gsw - steph, jc, q, ad, ec
@sac - steph, q, barnes, ad, ec (barnes hometown)
@uta - steph, q, barnes, ad, ec
@lal - steph, q, ariza, ad, ec (ariza hometown)
@den - steph, jc, malik, ad, ec (q hurt)
por - steph, jc, malik, ad, ec (q hurt)
@cha - steph, jc, malik, mo, ec (ec hurt)
@phi - steph, q, ariza, frye, ad (ec, mo hurt)
@mia - steph, q, ariza, frye, ad (ec hurt)
chi - steph, nate, malik, frye, ad (ec, q hurt)

november: # of lineups - 8. # of hometown starts - 2.

everyday starters were steph, q, ad, and ec. only real deviation from those 4 spots were when ec or q got hurt. the sf spot was open. frye got some starts in there as well.

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@det - steph, q, malik, mo, ad (ec hurt)
bos - steph, nate, q, ad, ec (mo hurt)
@sea - steph, nate, malik, ad, jerome (q hurt, nate, jerome hometown)
@lac - steph, nate, malik, ad, ec (q hurt)
@pho - steph, nate, ariza, frye, ec (q, ad hurt)
mil - steph, nate, q, frye, ec
orl - steph, q, ariza, frye, ec
@atl - steph, q, ariza, frye, jj (ec hurt)
ind - steph, q, ariza, frye, jj (ec hurt)
sas - steph, q, ariza, frye, jj (ec hurt)
uta - steph, q, ariza, ad, ec
njn - steph, q, ariza, ad, jj (ec hurt)
orl - steph, q, lee, ad, jj (ec hurt, lee hometown)
@mil - steph, nate, lee, ad, ec (q hurt)

december: # of lineups - 11. # of hometown starts - 2

everyday starters were steph, q, and ec. the sg spot went to nate when q was hurt. the pf spot went to frye for a trial run but was thoroughly exposed defensively. ec was hurt quite a bit so jerome got some burn as the starter.

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pho - steph, nate, lee, ad, ec (q hurt)
was - steph, nate, lee, ad, ec (q hurt)
sea - steph, nate, lee, ad, ec (q hurt)
@cle - steph, nate, lee, ad, ec
dal - steph, nate, lee, ad, ec
atl - steph, nate, lee, ad, ec (q hurt)
@tor - steph, nate, lee, ad, ec
min - steph, nate, lee, ad, ec
@chi - jc, nate, lee, ad, ec (steph hurt)
det - jc, nate, lee, frye, ec (ad suspended)
noh - jc, q, lee, mo, ec (ad suspended)
sac - steph, jc, q, mo, ec (ad suspended)
orl - steph, q, q2, mo, ec (ad suspended)
@phi - steph, nate, q2, mo, ec (ad suspended)
@atl - steph, q, malik, mo, ec (ad, q2 hurt)
lal - steph, q, q2, ad, ec

january: # of lineups - 9. # of hometown starts - 0

everyday starters were steph, ad, and ec. q was hurt early on so nate took his place. sf spot was open but lee got a decent stretch of starts. midway through the month, steph gets hurt and ad gets suspended.

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@tor - jc, q, q2, mo, ec (ad traded, steph hurt)
hou - jc, q, jalen, mo, ec (steph hurt)
lac - jc, q, jalen, mo, ec (steph hurt)
@njn - jc, q, jalen, mo, ec (steph hurt)
@noh - jc, q, jalen, mo, ec (steph hurt)
@hou - jc, q, jalen, mo, ec (steph hurt)
@dal - nate, q, jalen, malik, ec (jamal, steph hurt)
tor - jc, q, jalen, malik, ec (steph hurt)
mia - steph, q, jalen, frye, ec
njn - steph, francis, q, frye, ec
@was - steph, francis, q, frye, ec
@sas - steph, q, jalen, malik, ec

february: # of lineups - 7. # of hometown starts - 0

steph was hurt so jc took his spot. jalen was traded for so he took the sf spot. ec started at center. and mo was given a stretch at pf. towards the end of the month, francis was traded for so he took the starting sg spot when he arrived then was sent to the bench.

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@mem - steph, q, q2, malik, ec (q2 hometown)
chi - steph, q, jalen, malik, ec
@mil - steph, q, jalen, malik, ec
@ind - steph, q, jalen, malik, ec
@cha - steph, q, jalen, malik, ec
den - steph, q, jalen, malik, jj (ec hurt)
atl - steph, francis, jalen, malik, ec (q hurt)
det - steph, francis, jalen, malik, ec (q hurt)
mia - steph, francis, jalen, malik, ec (q hurt)
tor - steph, francis, jalen, frye, ec (q hurt)
@orl - steph, francis, jalen, lee, ec (frye hurt*)
mem - steph, francis, jalen, malik, ec (q hurt)
@min - steph, francis, jalen, malik, ec (q hurt)
bos - steph, francis, jalen, malik, ec (q hurt)
phi - steph, nate, jalen, malik, ec (q, francis hurt)

march: # of lineups - 6. # of hometown starts - 1

everyday starters were steph, q, jalen, malik, and ec. q got injured midway through so francis took the starting sg spot.

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@phi - jc, nate, q2, malik, ec (steph, jalen, q hurt)
@was - jc, francis, q2, malik, ec (steph, jalen hurt)
cle - jc, francis, q2, malik, ec (steph, jalen, q hurt)
ind - jc, francis, q2, malik, ec (steph, jalen, q hurt)
@bos - jc, francis, q2, malik, ec (steph, jalen, q hurt)
@ind - jc, francis, q2, malik, ec (steph, jalen, q hurt)
@cle - jc, nate, q2, malik, ec (steph, francis, jalen, q hurt)
mil - jc, nate, q2, malik, ec (steph, francis, jalen, q hurt)
@det - jc, nate, q2, malik, ec (steph, francis, jalen, q hurt)
cha - jc, nate, q2, malik, ec (steph, francis, jalen, q hurt)
@njn - jc, nate, q2, malik, ec (steph, francis, jalen, q hurt)

april: # of lineups - 3. # of hometown starts - 0

steph, jalen, q, and francis were hurt for a major portion of the month.

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so in conclusion, lb did use 40+ lineups but 4 starters from the beginning of the year was set: steph, q, ad, and ec. we had no true sf so that was a revolving door since nobody could take the spot. ariza got a nice run. then it went to lee. then it went to jalen and then when he got hurt, it went to q2. q got hurt alot and so did ec which effected the lineups. then in january, lb gave nate the sg spot since q was hurt and lee the sf spot. steph, ad and ec were still the starters. then steph got hurt. ad was then suspended, hurt, then subsequently traded. q returned from injury. jalen was then traded for as well as francis and then q went down with an injury. malik was given the starting pf spot. then steph, jalen and q were all hurt. and soon to be joined by francis.

injuries dictated alot of the lineups including multiple injuries to starters at the same time...and they added up. the hometown starts yielded only 5 starting lineup changes throughout the season. so when you examine the starting lineup situations, it's not as crazy as you would think.

[Edited by - djsunyc on 05-17-2006 02:38 AM]

As you noted, Steph, Q, AD and EC were pretty much set when avalable. But in spite of that, I'm quite certain that even if we only had one lineup the entire season, if that lineup won 23 games Larry would have been vilified for using the wrong lineup, being too stubborn, freezing guys out, utilizing the lineup to punish players he doesn't like, being to senile to see it wasn't working, etc, etc.

Let's face it, there's just no way to have a 23 win season in this town without being crucified, whoever you are.

Interesting. But riddle me this, why was Frye moved in and out of the lineup so much. Because your spread does indicate the fluxes that Frye once complained about in mid December as to not knowing what his role is on a given day. I mean your explaination you say that Nate took Q's place because he was hurt but you don't explain why Lee was inserted into the lineup as well and taken out. Also, you don't explain why Ariza was shuffled in and out of the lineup in December. I mean that accounted for most of the lineup change that month with Frye. Nice attempt though.

Larry has said point blank he's responsible for how bad the team played. The question is whether or not its a bad team. There's a lot of guys who have never played winning ball in the NBA on this team. In fact only Malik Rose has spent most of his time on winning teams.

Posted by Pharzeone:

Also you didn't note college town starts as well.

college fell under hometown also.

Posted by fishmike:

Larry has said point blank he's responsible for how bad the team played. The question is whether or not its a bad team. There's a lot of guys who have never played winning ball in the NBA on this team. In fact only Malik Rose has spent most of his time on winning teams.

True. I am just unhappy that he didn't decide in the pre-season to stick with a set lineup but Q's injury seemed to be a constant issue. In fact this team had alot of injuries. Also sould be noted is his DNPCD's, and his active roster list. But injuries also impacted that.

Posted by martin:

actually, I am surprised that anyone is surprised at the number of lineups.

Lets talk injuries:

Curry, Big Game (C)
Frye (PF)
Marbs (PG)
Q (G)

Trades/Cuts/Aquisitions:
AD (PF)
Barnes, Rose, Q2 (SF)

Rookies:
Frye (PF)
Lee (SF)
Nate (PG/SG)

In each of the first 2 categories there were significant games missed. Also, the rooks started a significant number of games. 30-40 lineups sound about right.

I think part of it is that he didn't set a rotation. Most coaches begin to carve out a set rotation and Brown never did that. Injuries aside. But to be fair he did do the same thing in Detroit. I admit that I am more surprise with the amount of injuries looking back at it.

Posted by Pharzeone:

Posted by martin:

actually, I am surprised that anyone is surprised at the number of lineups.

Lets talk injuries:

Curry, Big Game (C)
Frye (PF)
Marbs (PG)
Q (G)

Trades/Cuts/Aquisitions:
AD (PF)
Barnes, Rose, Q2 (SF)

Rookies:
Frye (PF)
Lee (SF)
Nate (PG/SG)

In each of the first 2 categories there were significant games missed. Also, the rooks started a significant number of games. 30-40 lineups sound about right.

I think part of it is that he didn't set a rotation. Most coaches begin to carve out a set rotation and Brown never did that. Injuries aside. But to be fair he did do the same thing in Detroit. I admit that I am more surprise with the amount of injuries looking back at it.

Right. Chicken or the egg. Can you have a set rotation if you have injuries, etc?