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If he does that will still be longer than Don Nelson, that's still my benchmark. This organization has a bad history with coaches. I remember once where it was reported and I think it was right after Van Gundy step down that the organization has had alot of coaches in its history. I remember Ewing once joking on TNT during an interview in Houston that during his Knick career he had 8 different head coaches. He played 13 seasons with the Knicks. I think Riley and Van Gundy were the only 2 that had more than 2 years tenure.

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5/14/2006 6:36 PM

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Herb had his chance and wasn't very good. Adelman and Stan Van Gundy are available get on eof them, Isiah hope not but it wouldn't be the end of the world he will be decent at best.

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5/14/2006 6:41 PM

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and when those guys prove to incompetent to Pete Carrill's offense, it'll just be one more 700 plus win coach canned by coachkillerbury

the stop underrating David Lee movement 1. FIRE MIKE 2. HIRE MULLIN 3. PAY AVERY 4. FREE NATE!!!

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5/14/2006 7:47 PM

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nah, if Brown is ousted this has to be all on Isiah. if he fails, he's out.

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5/14/2006 10:42 PM

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I think the idea is to avoid paying another salary, so I don't think we'll see Adelman or Van Gundy brought in.

If Brown goes, Isiah Thomas will be the Knicks next coach.

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5/14/2006 10:44 PM

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If this comes to fruition its sad. Rooting for the team to fail is messed up, but I see no other way.

Dolan if this all comes about might confirm our view that he is the dumbest man alive and I will applaud larry walking away from this disaster and accumulating multigenerational wealth from this moron.

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5/14/2006 10:46 PM

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Yeah I'm def rootin against the team if this happens. Every loos will bring enjoyment. I hope IT falls on his face and never gets another job again.

A glimmer of hope maybe?!?

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5/14/2006 11:21 PM

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Posted by Nalod:

If this comes to fruition its sad. Rooting for the team to fail is messed up, but I see no other way.

Dolan if this all comes about might confirm our view that he is the dumbest man alive and I will applaud larry walking away from this disaster and accumulating multigenerational wealth from this moron.

You should be ashamed of yourself Nalod, and all the rest of you saying you will stop rooting. Nalod, I remember you chastising holfresh for threatening to start a "fire larry" countdown list, saying that he should not cherish being right over the team winning.

Isn't that what you are doing?

Is this team the New York Larry Browns?

Larry Brown is not a deity.

oohah

Good luck Mike D'Antoni, 'cause you ain't never seen nothing like this before!

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5/14/2006 11:25 PM

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what you guys aren't getting is that we're not fixated on larry brown...it's the philosophy of dumping another coach. (and it this case, it's another HOF coach)

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Posted by djsunyc:

what you guys aren't getting is that we're not fixated on larry brown...it's the philosophy of dumping another coach. (and it this case, it's another HOF coach)

I would believe that if I were new to the board, but I have been reading all y'alls posts all season and I have seen the lengths gone to defend and explain how god-awful he was this year.

oohah

[Edited by - oohah on 05-14-2006 11:32 PM]

Good luck Mike D'Antoni, 'cause you ain't never seen nothing like this before!

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5/14/2006 11:34 PM

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I'm not crazy about this proposed move, unless it's part of a larger house cleaning (like getting rid of Isiah and Marbury as well). I agree that having a new coach every season is ridiculous, but we all know Dolan's an idiot.

However, I would not root against the team.

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5/14/2006 11:34 PM

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Addition: In the twisted psyche of the LB apologist, 23 wins by LB are better than a theoretical 46 by Isiah.

oohah

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why not a gorilla for that matter, who cares, its a damn circuis

A glimmer of hope maybe?!?

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5/15/2006 11:01 AM

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Posted by oohah:
Posted by Nalod:

If this comes to fruition its sad. Rooting for the team to fail is messed up, but I see no other way.

Dolan if this all comes about might confirm our view that he is the dumbest man alive and I will applaud larry walking away from this disaster and accumulating multigenerational wealth from this moron.

You should be ashamed of yourself Nalod, and all the rest of you saying you will stop rooting. Nalod, I remember you chastising holfresh for threatening to start a "fire larry" countdown list, saying that he should not cherish being right over the team winning.

Isn't that what you are doing?

Is this team the New York Larry Browns?

Larry Brown is not a deity.

oohah

5 coaching changes in less than 3 years. That is what is so messed up.

What worries me is trades to win right away and giving up on any future.

Isiah is despirate. This is not a good thing. Not good for our young players, nor good for building anything for the future.

We don't build around here, we are a team of instant gradification.

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Posted by crzymdups:

nah, if Brown is ousted this has to be all on Isiah. if he fails, he's out.

agreed... let's stop the coaching merry go round... this has to rest on Isiah's shoulder, for better or for worse, since it's apparent that Dolan trusts the guy for some reason unbeknownst to any logical thinking human being.

After 7 years & 40K+ posts, banned by martin for calling Nalod a 'moron'. Awesome.

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Posted by Nalod:
Posted by oohah:
Posted by Nalod:

If this comes to fruition its sad. Rooting for the team to fail is messed up, but I see no other way.

Dolan if this all comes about might confirm our view that he is the dumbest man alive and I will applaud larry walking away from this disaster and accumulating multigenerational wealth from this moron.

You should be ashamed of yourself Nalod, and all the rest of you saying you will stop rooting. Nalod, I remember you chastising holfresh for threatening to start a "fire larry" countdown list, saying that he should not cherish being right over the team winning.

Isn't that what you are doing?

Is this team the New York Larry Browns?

Larry Brown is not a deity.

oohah

5 coaching changes in less than 3 years. That is what is so messed up.

What worries me is trades to win right away and giving up on any future.

Isiah is despirate. This is not a good thing. Not good for our young players, nor good for building anything for the future.

We don't build around here, we are a team of instant gradification.

Isiah is desperate? He actually wants to keep the young players. Brown would trade Frye for Tyrone Hill if he was given control of the roster. Zeke actually has a plan, Larry just want people who know how to play NBA defense, he isn't interested in teaching the finer points to kids. Larry can't see the potential in anyone, only what's lacking. He's a horrible coach for a developing team. He's a fine/possibly great coach for a team full of vets who know what to do.

We are a young team and we will improve.

I hope Larry likes Sacramento, I'm sure ESPN will make him a martyr all next season and never mention the fact that Bill Davidson fired his butt, too. whatever.

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5/15/2006 11:10 AM

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Larry can't see the potential in anyone, only what's lacking. He's a horrible coach for a developing team.

please read up on his credentials:

http://www.jewishsports.net/biopages/LawrenceBrown.htm

After 7 years & 40K+ posts, banned by martin for calling Nalod a 'moron'. Awesome.

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