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bobs3304
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5/11/2006  4:00 AM
I was "banned" from RGM some time ago for some BS reason. Basically I can't post. So I need someone to post this for me in "Hope33's" name.

Thanks.


-- Ryan


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Now Only Isiah Can Send 2 Fading Stars Off Into the Sunset...


In 1998, 2 years after being drafted 4th overall by the Milwaukee Bucks and traded to the Minnesota Timberwolves, Stephon Marbury was dealt to New Jersey for Terrell Brandon. The Wolves had made the playoffs two straight years, and the Garnett/Marbury tandem was looking bright for the future. They were called the new-age Stockton and Malone. But for some reason, Stephon and owner Glen Taylor came to a disagreement and ties were broken. Stephon wanted more money, he didn't want to play Robin to KG's Batman, he was selfish, etc, etc. Whatever your opinion, Marbury went on to collect two All-Star nods, and is STILL the only player beside Oscar Robertson to average 20 points and 8 assists for his career. Unlike the Big O, however, Stephon to this day has never enjoyed any lasting success. And since his departure, like the Timberwolves themselves, he has never fully recovered...

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A year later in 1999, Steve Francis, standout sophomore from Maryland, was drafted 2nd overall by the Vancouver Grizzlies. The orginization, like Minnesota before them, was building on a foundation of their own, with Mike Bibby and Shareef Abdur-Rahim, and was looking to add that 3rd young core piece to their team. When chosen 2nd overall, Francis cried out and swore that the Bulls, who passed on him, would regret it. He also went on to REFUSE to play for the Grizzlies, and forced a trade to the Houston Rockets. Often called selfish, a ballhog, and a defensive liability, Francis cross-overed and dunked his way to 3 straight All-Star selections, only to get bounced from the playoffs in the 1st round in 2004. It would seem since then his game has "deteriorated," and the Grizzlies themselves havent enjoyed much luck either...

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2 past All-Stars. 2 players who have played most of their career with a bad reputation. 2 guys who have all the talent in the world, but may live the rest of their lives wondering --

"What if..."

What if they had stayed. What if they had swallowed their pride and been part of a growing core in two frigid cities that needed a new star to warm things up. What couldve been.....


Well, only 1 man can return these 2 fading stars to the place where it all began for them. So that both no longer have to wonder what if, and can give it one last try, for old times sake. To show that theyve grown up since then, that theyre willing to give it another go before their careers are over. To make things right...


That man is Isiah Thomas. He's no Don Corleone, but Isiah, in one fell swoop, could undo years of damage from the past, and potential damage in the future.

Perhaps, in the end, this is the only way to save his own job.

This could be a storied offseason for 3 teams, and 1 man has the power to make it happen...






[Edited by - bobs3304 on 05-11-2006 04:02 AM]
DLee is the best thing to happen to NY in Isiah's 4 year tenure. And that alone, though a positive on the radar, is sad as hell.
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Nalod
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5/11/2006  8:59 AM

RobinBury?

I wonder if Larry has a secret plan for Francis. I wonder if he sees somthing in him that no coach has yet to tap into. Master Yoda unleashed the undeveloped potential of his new Jedi.

Steph has refused the teachings and has gone back to the dark side. Obi-Won Isiah must painfully give up on his protoge.

Francis might still be workable.

Be nice to keep building in the draft, but larry ain't getting any younger and Isiahs clock is ticking.

Tick-Tock, Tick-Tock do I hear a StarPhock?
TMS
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5/11/2006  9:30 AM
Marbs to MIN for trash & the #6
Francis to MEM for Eddie Jones' expiring & a protected future pick
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Nalod
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5/11/2006  10:41 AM
Posted by TMS:

Marbs to MIN for trash & the #6
Francis to MEM for Eddie Jones' expiring & a protected future pick
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Expensive trash. But a dumps a Dump.
bobs3304
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5/11/2006  4:02 PM
Well, I see that no one actually posted it yet.

Gee..........thanks.



DLee is the best thing to happen to NY in Isiah's 4 year tenure. And that alone, though a positive on the radar, is sad as hell.
bobs3304
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5/11/2006  4:15 PM
Btw, I actually think the Knicks, Wolves, and Grizz could work out a 3-way deal, b/c Minnesota has something Memphis wants --- a Center that can put some points on the board.

Mark Blount is who I'm talkin about of course. On a given night, he can put up anywhere from 8-15 points. That's already more than Wright + Tsakilidis alone.

Of course it might just be a fantasy to think Isiah will trade both of our "stars", but here's what the trade could look like:


Marbury, 29th Pick to MIN

Francis, Blount to MEM

R. Davis, E. Jones, Cardinal, Hudson, Fut. Pick via MEM to NYK


DLee is the best thing to happen to NY in Isiah's 4 year tenure. And that alone, though a positive on the radar, is sad as hell.
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5/11/2006  4:18 PM
Maybe .0002% of those trades will actually happen. That's why I hate trade proposals. You got the same chance of winning the lottery.
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TMS
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5/11/2006  4:37 PM
as long as the trade proposals sound reasonable from a talent for talent standpoint, i have no problem discussing them.

i like those trades bobs... i've always liked Ricky Davis' game (even though some posters here have flamed me for it in the past)... i think he would form a nice backcourt w/Craw & Nate... high energy, athletic, exciting & he would add some much needed defense to our perimeter.
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bobs3304
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5/11/2006  4:38 PM
good.

so can someone post it on rgm for me.

the article part...
DLee is the best thing to happen to NY in Isiah's 4 year tenure. And that alone, though a positive on the radar, is sad as hell.
TMS
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5/11/2006  4:42 PM
no.
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5/11/2006  4:42 PM
lol
all kool aid all the time.
bobs3304
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5/11/2006  4:43 PM
***hole


no lol.

[Edited by - bobs3304 on 05-11-2006 4:43 PM]
DLee is the best thing to happen to NY in Isiah's 4 year tenure. And that alone, though a positive on the radar, is sad as hell.
rvhoss
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5/11/2006  4:45 PM
hey, why were you banned from realgm? Oh, nevermind.
all kool aid all the time.
bobs3304
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5/11/2006  4:47 PM
for being an innovative genius.
DLee is the best thing to happen to NY in Isiah's 4 year tenure. And that alone, though a positive on the radar, is sad as hell.
bobs3304
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5/11/2006  5:05 PM
btw, to show that that trade actually works for all parties involved...

A.) Minnesota could pawn off Hassell and Griffin to Milwaukee for Magloire. (Bucks looking for a defensive stopper). They get to keep 6th pick AND McCants. Nice blend of playoff vets and some nice youth for AKG -- (After Kevin Garnett).

B.) Memphis gets an able scorer at Center in Blount. Gets a slasher & clutch scorer in Francis who can play either guard position. 2 things Gasol + West said they need. I think an ideal lineup for them would be Francis + (insert Quintin Ross type SG here) + Battier + Gasol + Blount.

C.) Knicks get a NICE piece in Ricky Davis, plus an expiring. End of story.
DLee is the best thing to happen to NY in Isiah's 4 year tenure. And that alone, though a positive on the radar, is sad as hell.
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5/12/2006  1:49 AM
Posted by bobs3304:

for being an innovative genius.

Yes, I'm so sure. Well hows this for innovative genius?

Why don't you open an account on real gm, using a different name using a different email address?

Or do you think realgm is run by the NSA?

[Edited by - Killa4luv on 05-12-2006 01:51 AM]
bobs3304
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5/12/2006  3:06 AM
They only allow private email addys now chuuuuuuuuummmmmmp
DLee is the best thing to happen to NY in Isiah's 4 year tenure. And that alone, though a positive on the radar, is sad as hell.
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5/12/2006  3:33 AM
I'd never give up Ricky Davis for Marbury if I ran Minn. Davis: age: 26, plays hard on both ends of court, averaged 20/5/5
bobs3304
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5/12/2006  3:59 AM
For all of Musclebury's faults, he's better than Ricky Davis.

Marbury - 2 All Stars
Davis - None.


And all this is a moot point, caz apparently KG has demanded a trade.

DLee is the best thing to happen to NY in Isiah's 4 year tenure. And that alone, though a positive on the radar, is sad as hell.
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5/12/2006  9:34 AM
^^^ When did that happen ???
Isiah Thomas will lead us back to the playoffs in 2006 !!!
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