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Compare the two most disappointing Knicks players of the past two seasons.
Tim "Fugazy" Thomas
Q "1/7 Field goals but I play hard" Richardson
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fishmike
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5/5/2006  3:24 PM
uhh... what am I voting for?

I never hated Tim. He just should never have opened his mouth to KMart and talked about what a tough guy he was, then back it up with nothing. He may have been hurt but he sucked the next year also.

Q has never made excuses.. I'm looking for him to have a bounce back season
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5/5/2006  3:27 PM
TT by a landslide. I'm never disappointed in someone playing hard (Q). When someone has all the talent you could ever asks for but plays like a wuss (TT), you should hate him.
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5/5/2006  3:29 PM
Er..sorry, I meant which player would you prefer.
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5/5/2006  3:34 PM
Posted by DarkKnicks:

Er..sorry, I meant which player would you prefer.

Lock this thread and make a new poll then.
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DarkKnicks
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5/5/2006  3:39 PM
Posted by Solace:
Posted by DarkKnicks:

Er..sorry, I meant which player would you prefer.

Lock this thread and make a new poll then.
Well, I don't think it is necesary but I have no control over it.
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5/5/2006  3:42 PM
Posted by DarkKnicks:
Posted by Solace:
Posted by DarkKnicks:

Er..sorry, I meant which player would you prefer.

Lock this thread and make a new poll then.
Well, I don't think it is necesary but I have no control over it.

Well I voted differently because I saw the poll first, before I saw your comment. Others may have made the same mistake. You could create a new thread, put a little note in this one that you've done that and one of the admins will lock the thread.
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5/5/2006  3:44 PM
i prefer q-rich....he has heart
''We don't have the luxury to take anybody lightly,'' New York's Quentin Richardson said. ''We're not that good.''
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5/5/2006  3:59 PM
Posted by Solace:
Posted by DarkKnicks:
Posted by Solace:
Posted by DarkKnicks:

Er..sorry, I meant which player would you prefer.

Lock this thread and make a new poll then.
Well, I don't think it is necesary but I have no control over it.

Well I voted differently because I saw the poll first, before I saw your comment. Others may have made the same mistake. You could create a new thread, put a little note in this one that you've done that and one of the admins will lock the thread.
I know!!
Ok, I will create a new one. So please Martin, lock this thread.
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5/5/2006  4:20 PM
man, i misread the question, I mean to vote for TT... I like Q..
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5/5/2006  4:23 PM
forgive them father for they know not what they do
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5/5/2006  5:01 PM
Posted by tkf:

man, i misread the question, I mean to vote for TT... I like Q..

How sad and ironic is this that TT is giving the Suns what Q Rich couldn't provide last year in the playoffs. A consistent outside threat that the defense must respect.
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5/5/2006  6:34 PM
TT is far superior to Q Rich.
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5/5/2006  7:41 PM
Posted by rojasmas:

TT is far superior to Q Rich.

TT is playing for a contract. Qrich brings effort every night. TT has superior skills, but an inferior will. People harp on Curry, but TT brings it far less often. TT is one of the most frustrating Knicks I've ever watched. I hate him. At least Q tries and he defends. I think he'll be better next season.
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5/5/2006  11:39 PM
TT shot 45 percent his half season in his first year in NY. He got hurt and left at least 3 games early which brought down those numbers. What did he do wrong the first year? He also had a good playoffs against the Nets. He also shot 40 percent from 3. He played well overall his first year here. He didn't do great his second year but was mired by personal problems. He still managed to shoot 43 percent and over 40 percent from 3. The fans hatred towards him astonishes me. He was never that bad. Look at Q Rich and Penny Hardaway and people like that if you want to get pissed.
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5/5/2006  11:43 PM
Posted by rojasmas:

TT is far superior to Q Rich.

Geeze.....TT picked to go to PHX and is scoring on the highest scoring team in the L-go figure-, TT is the tallest player on PHX and is rebounding-go figure-, TT is playing for a contract-go ask the Bucks how that worked out last time-,TT hasn't even played the whole season-he has the freshest legs in the league, TT picked PHX and is playing with Steve Nash-aka Jason Kidd West, you think he picked to go to PHX in a contract year by accident?-

In his contract year with Milly(99-00), his scoring jumped up about 3 points per game, rebounds about 2 per game...he didn't show a marked improvement until 03-04 when he was traded to us, then he jumped to 16 per with us until the end of that season then fell to 12. He does this he is the Erik Dampier of the SF/PF set.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/stats?statsId=3170
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5/6/2006  12:01 AM
Here are his numbers with the Knicks. Compare them with Q Rich and you tell me who stole money.
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/3170/career;_ylt=A0SO55A6GlxEqAMB9ASkvLYF
TT averaged 16/5 his half season in his first year in NY on 45% shooting. Not shabby.
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5/6/2006  12:03 AM
TT is the tallest player on Phoenix and is now rebounding, go figure? What does that mean. He is the same height he always was. Who cares who is the tallest on Phoenix. Sean Marion gets 12 boards a game and is 6'7", go figure. Duh.
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5/6/2006  12:10 AM
Posted by rojasmas:

Here are his numbers with the Knicks. Compare them with Q Rich and you tell me who stole money.
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/3170/career;_ylt=A0SO55A6GlxEqAMB9ASkvLYF
TT averaged 16/5 his half season in his first year in NY on 45% shooting. Not shabby.

And his second FULL season on NY he averaged 12 and 3...le's not forget that little nugget. Tim Thomas makes $14,364,063. Q makes 7 mil this season. Q averaged 8ppg, 4.2 rpg, 1.2 apg, and played VERY solid defense-something TT just doesn't do .....http://www.hoopshype.com/salaries.htm. How about you tell me who stole Dolan's money?
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5/6/2006  12:16 AM
Posted by rojasmas:

TT is the tallest player on Phoenix and is now rebounding, go figure? What does that mean. He is the same height he always was. Who cares who is the tallest on Phoenix. Sean Marion gets 12 boards a game and is 6'7", go figure. Duh.

If TT had Marion's heart he would average 14 rebounds per game easy....look at PHX's lineup.
Nash doesn't board, Diaw is the only guy other than Marion who boards, and he only grabs between 5 and 6 and plays the 2!
To steal a quote from Larry, when he is 6-11, and is the biggest guy on the court for the team that shoots/and gives up the most shots in the NBA he should grab a couple rebounds by accident.

You can't just totally blow aside the way Phx plays when considering the stats for players on their team.
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5/6/2006  12:17 AM
Forget salary, Q Rich did less than TT even at TT's worst. You don't pay salary, it shouldn't bother you. Both underperformed in the years you mentioned. But only TT is lambasted. Q Rich should be as well if there is consistency. Besides all of this, TT does rise to the occasion in the playoffs as this year and his time in Milwaukee versus the Pacers showed.
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