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buy out francis/marbury or trade for kmart?


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djsunyc
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what would be better for us: buying out francis or marbury which guarantees the contract comes off the books in 3 years and we don't make another big expiring year deal... or trading for kmart who has a max deal that extends 2 years past marbury or francis?
buy out
kmart
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djsunyc
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5/3/2006  3:10 PM
Posted by fishmike:

I still think the Hawks would take Marbury/Francis with the cap space they have. Remember Marvin Williams will eventually explode. His downside is probably Twan Jamison, and a decent PG would lighten things up for him. Now Tyrus Thomas isnt a center, but they could always trade down for an OBryant or Sheldon Williams, or just take Aldridge. If they could get a decent coach I think
pg Marbury or Francis
sg Joe Johnson
sf Josh Smith
pf Marvin Williams
c TyThomas/Aldridge/Obryant/Sheldon Williams

at the very worst would put fans back in the seats. It an experienced backcourt which really hurt them last year.

and we get back "i can call you betty and betty when you call me, you can call me" al?
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TMS
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5/3/2006  3:14 PM
fine w/me... if we can get Al Harrington for Marbury you already know where i stand on it.
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fishmike
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5/3/2006  4:49 PM
I was thinking a future 2nd rounder in return
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TMS
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5/3/2006  5:12 PM
you can't be serious that you'd rather get back a future 2nd round pick than Al Harrington?
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5/3/2006  6:16 PM
Posted by djsunyc:
Posted by Bonn1997:
Posted by djsunyc:
Posted by crzymdups:

I think a buy-out is a little extreme and hamstrings this franchise even more than it already is. You know Marbury and/or Francis would be signed immediately to the MLE or above, so why not look for a trade that benefits the team.

This site is getting harder to read when it's the same pouting over and over again. Yes, we had a bad season. These things happen. MY god.

whatever steph or francis sign for are subtracted from what we owe them. if they're owed $18 mil and they sign a deal for $7 mil, then we only have to pay them $11 mil and the cap # is $11 mil.

anybody can be traded. but you have to make sure you don't further cripple your team by making a trade just to make a trade...i.e. steve francis.

if the option is kmart or buy out...i would choose buy out. it actually means there's a plan instead of the "i hope <insert player here> can stay healthy/happy" BS that forever haunts this team.
Why not give K-Mart time to see how he recovers. If he recovers well, keep him. If not, buy him out. The worst case scenario (a buyout) is equal to the scenario you're advocating (a buyout now). I would still pick neither if that were a poll option.

b/c he has two MORE years on the cap after marbury and francis expire.

2 more years of money for Jimmy Dolan to pay in the buyout in the worst case scenario. Who cares? It's not like we're trying to get under the cap.
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5/3/2006  6:43 PM
Posted by crzymdups:

I think a buy-out is a little extreme and hamstrings this franchise even more than it already is. You know Marbury and/or Francis would be signed immediately to the MLE or above, so why not look for a trade that benefits the team.

This site is getting harder to read when it's the same pouting over and over again. Yes, we had a bad season. These things happen. MY god.

Hey getting something in return is fine, I just don't want to add anymore bad contracts to this roster. No matter what trade the Knicks make, unless you get an Al Harrington, their going to have to take a bad contract back or two. This organization CAN'T handle anymore bad contracts.
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5/3/2006  9:05 PM
DJ this is a bad poll, if these were our only choices I'd become a bobcat fan.
djsunyc
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5/3/2006  9:40 PM
Posted by Killa4luv:

DJ this is a bad poll, if these were our only choices I'd become a bobcat fan.

it is an unrealistic poll but i was curious to see if it came down to kmart or a buyout, which would knicks fans prefer.
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5/4/2006  2:09 AM
Posted by TMS:

buying out Francis or Marbury should be the absolute last viable option... at least w/KMart you have a potential positive return on your investment... it also poses a risk of weighing down the cap 2 extra years, but this franchise has never been close to being under the cap as long as Dolan has owned the franchise, & i don't see any reason to believe they ever will.



Agreed.
I'll never trust this' team again.
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5/4/2006  3:49 AM
NEITHER
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buy out francis/marbury or trade for kmart?

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