Posted by PresIke:

Neither. I can't say I agree with the notion that we have to either buy them out or trade them for K-Mart, nor are those the likely scenarios for the Knicks either.

Certainly Isiah is considering K-Mart, but not buying out Francis &/or Marbury.

i'm going on the assumption that we'd swap one of those two for kmart since it makes the most sense for both teams.

Buyout please. I think it's addition by subtraction if both malcontents are off of this team next year.

the most allowed under the cap rules is a cash payment of $3 million... maybe you can squeeze a future pick out of DEN? that would be too good to be true.

Posted by djsunyc:

Posted by PresIke:

Neither. I can't say I agree with the notion that we have to either buy them out or trade them for K-Mart, nor are those the likely scenarios for the Knicks either.

Certainly Isiah is considering K-Mart, but not buying out Francis &/or Marbury.

i'm going on the assumption that we'd swap one of those two for kmart since it makes the most sense for both teams.

You're right, it might make sense for both teams to make that kind of trade in their eyes, but it also doesn't to many critics. As you pointed out, The deals both Marbury and Francis have are shorter than K-Mart's so that has to weigh into the equation. Why not just keep them both until we can swing a deal that gets us the kinds of players that we need and are not HUGE risks like trading for a Martin? Now, I think trading for Martin COULD work if we could not only trade Marbury (my preference)but also get rid of contracts like James and/or Q (although I liked how he played sometimes) and we get other defensive minded and athletic players, both of which Denver might be willing to take. That way we aren't tied into as many big risks at once.

Marbury's and Francis' values are at rock bottom right now, so as terrible a pill as this may be to swallow, we might want to consider holding them until something else comes along. Of course a reason that is a risk is that we may very well concede our draft pick AGAIN next year if we finish worse than the Bulls, and by bringing back Marbury & Francis, we may see a repeat of last year's performance.

I think a buy-out is a little extreme and hamstrings this franchise even more than it already is. You know Marbury and/or Francis would be signed immediately to the MLE or above, so why not look for a trade that benefits the team.

This site is getting harder to read when it's the same pouting over and over again. Yes, we had a bad season. These things happen. MY god.

How about we buy out Brwon and bring in Phil Jackson?

Posted by crzymdups:

I think a buy-out is a little extreme and hamstrings this franchise even more than it already is. You know Marbury and/or Francis would be signed immediately to the MLE or above, so why not look for a trade that benefits the team.

My sentiments, exactly.

Posted by crzymdups:

I think a buy-out is a little extreme and hamstrings this franchise even more than it already is. You know Marbury and/or Francis would be signed immediately to the MLE or above, so why not look for a trade that benefits the team.

This site is getting harder to read when it's the same pouting over and over again. Yes, we had a bad season. These things happen. MY god.

whatever steph or francis sign for are subtracted from what we owe them. if they're owed $18 mil and they sign a deal for $7 mil, then we only have to pay them $11 mil and the cap # is $11 mil.

anybody can be traded. but you have to make sure you don't further cripple your team by making a trade just to make a trade...i.e. steve francis.

if the option is kmart or buy out...i would choose buy out. it actually means there's a plan instead of the "i hope <insert player here> can stay healthy/happy" BS that forever haunts this team.

Posted by Bonn1997:

Posted by djsunyc:

Posted by crzymdups:

I think a buy-out is a little extreme and hamstrings this franchise even more than it already is. You know Marbury and/or Francis would be signed immediately to the MLE or above, so why not look for a trade that benefits the team.

This site is getting harder to read when it's the same pouting over and over again. Yes, we had a bad season. These things happen. MY god.

whatever steph or francis sign for are subtracted from what we owe them. if they're owed $18 mil and they sign a deal for $7 mil, then we only have to pay them $11 mil and the cap # is $11 mil.

anybody can be traded. but you have to make sure you don't further cripple your team by making a trade just to make a trade...i.e. steve francis.

if the option is kmart or buy out...i would choose buy out. it actually means there's a plan instead of the "i hope <insert player here> can stay healthy/happy" BS that forever haunts this team.

Why not give K-Mart time to see how he recovers. If he recovers well, keep him. If not, buy him out. The worst case scenario (a buyout) is equal to the scenario you're advocating (a buyout now). I would still pick neither if that were a poll option.

b/c he has two MORE years on the cap after marbury and francis expire.