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curry32
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4/28/2006  10:57 AM
at the TNT halftime show they had webber and he was discussing talks of the sixers wanting to blow up the team. philly isnt too happy with daly and they have one of the highest payrolls and still arent in the playoffs. would they do daly for maurice taylor and our 2 first round picks? it gives us the needed freedom to resign butler and woods. i remember brown saying that daly was a game changer when we played them; he got like 6 blocks. in a solid 30 mins starting he gets 9 rebs with 2.5 blocks. i think a nice rotation of him, curry, and frye would be incredible.
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4/28/2006  11:02 AM
talk to a philly fan who watches every game about dalembert
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4/28/2006  11:04 AM
uhh, 2 first rounders (even though mid to late) for daly and an expiring? no way!
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4/28/2006  11:15 AM
i did, this is a very legit trade scenario.
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4/28/2006  11:16 AM
I watch most Philly games, and would probably deal any of our FC players (apart from Frye) for Daly. He's not a guy that will put up a lot of points, but, like Chandler, he's a defensive and rebounding presence. The problem is we don't have the contracts to make an attractive match.
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4/28/2006  11:21 AM
Posted by gunsnewing:

talk to a philly fan who watches every game about dalembert


i live in south jersey so i watched him a lot. he is a great shot blocker from the weak side but not a solid "defender" if he plays straight up. guys can over power him or go around. awareness is not great. offense is horrid mostly. however, he is athletic and energetic. can work well with curry.
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4/28/2006  12:08 PM
I think it's a possibility that Larry will want to go after Iverson or Dalembert and the Knicks will take Webber back to get one of those guys. Jalen and Mo T and Frye or something would work.
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4/28/2006  12:10 PM
http://www.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?t=507158

Read this... obviously a handfull of diehard Phili fans. They essentially say Dalembert is overrated, overpaid and dumb as a bag of hammers. That being said they only one would even consider moving Sam for Curry who they have an even lower opnion of.

Essentially Sam's D sucks in the post. He gets some blocks on help but gets used by whoever he covers
Sam has ZERO offensive skills and ZERO improvement in that area.
Before Sam signed the contract he had a stretch at the end of the year where he averaged 12/12/4 and that player hasnt been seen since.

That being said I think I would do Sam for Mo T and the picks. We just have too many guys and Sam is a hard working player, he's young and I think his value around the league is reasonable enough where he could be a good piece to a trade moving forward.
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4/28/2006  12:14 PM
Posted by crzymdups:

I think it's a possibility that Larry will want to go after Iverson or Dalembert and the Knicks will take Webber back to get one of those guys. Jalen and Mo T and Frye or something would work.
what about all 3?

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4/28/2006  12:17 PM
forget martin, y not dalembert?

i don't think the admin would appreciate your tone of voice.

btw, if you can make the trade of Mo T & picks for Dalembert, i do that in a heartbeat... i also make the Francis for KMart trade, & then sign Jared Jefferies to the MLE... adding 3 tough defenders to a defensively-challenged roster makes sense to me... yeah, the money is astronomical, but what else is new? we need role players that will fit in LB's system... all 3 of those guys can help this team imho... then i wouldn't mind as much keeping Marbury around since he'd have some defensive minded players playing behind him that can cover when his man inevitably blows by him off the dribble.
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4/28/2006  12:37 PM
Posted by crzymdups:

I think it's a possibility that Larry will want to go after Iverson or Dalembert and the Knicks will take Webber back to get one of those guys. Jalen and Mo T and Frye or something would work.

Why would Brown want to see Iverson's face. If the Knicks brought in Iverson, I would give Brown the biggest pass to just say fu I quit because everyone knows that he had his fill with Iverson while in Philly, was happy to get away from him. Second, why would that team work in NY if he didn't work in Philly?

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4/28/2006  12:48 PM
Posted by fishmike:
Posted by crzymdups:

I think it's a possibility that Larry will want to go after Iverson or Dalembert and the Knicks will take Webber back to get one of those guys. Jalen and Mo T and Frye or something would work.
what about all 3?

Hey, I didn't say I wanted it, I'm just bracing for anything at this point.
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4/28/2006  12:49 PM
Philadelphia Trade Breakdown
Outgoing
Chris Webber
6-10 PF from Michigan
20.2 ppg, 9.9 rpg, 3.4 apg in 38.6 minutes
Allen Iverson
6-0 PG from Georgetown
33.0 ppg, 3.2 rpg, 7.4 apg in 43.0 minutes
Samuel Dalembert
6-11 C from Seton Hall
7.3 ppg, 8.2 rpg, 0.4 apg in 26.7 minutes
Incoming
Malik Rose
6-7 PF from Drexel
4.5 ppg, 3.6 rpg, 0.9 apg in 15.6 minutes
Maurice Taylor
6-9 PF from Michigan
6.3 ppg, 3.4 rpg, 0.8 apg in 18.0 minutes
Jalen Rose
6-8 SG from Michigan
12.3 ppg, 2.9 rpg, 2.5 apg in 27.3 minutes
Jerome James
7-1 C from Florida A&M
3.0 ppg, 2.0 rpg, 0.3 apg in 9.0 minutes

saves Phili $17mm off their cap at the end of the year. Throw in both #1's this year and the obligatory $3mm.

Buyout Webber
Trade Francis and cash for a 2nd rounder to the Hawks
Sign Reggie Evans to the full MLE
Sign Jackie B to the LLE
Sign QWoods to min guarnteed 2 years

Curry/Dalembert/Butler
Evans/Frye
QRich/QWoods/Lee
Marbury/Nate
Iverson/Crawford

There you go Mr. Dolan.. the masterplan unfoldeth
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4/28/2006  12:52 PM
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! thanks for the laugh fish.
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4/28/2006  12:58 PM
dont laugh... thats the backup plan for when KG and JOneil falls though
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4/28/2006  1:12 PM
Posted by curry32:

at the TNT halftime show they had webber and he was discussing talks of the sixers wanting to blow up the team. philly isnt too happy with daly and they have one of the highest payrolls and still arent in the playoffs. would they do daly for maurice taylor and our 2 first round picks? it gives us the needed freedom to resign butler and woods. i remember brown saying that daly was a game changer when we played them; he got like 6 blocks. in a solid 30 mins starting he gets 9 rebs with 2.5 blocks. i think a nice rotation of him, curry, and frye would be incredible.
I would do this trade in a heartbeat.
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4/28/2006  2:45 PM
Posted by fishmike:

dont laugh... thats the backup plan for when KG and JOneil falls though

you know what mike? i am thinking the same thing. all about the names with dolan. box office and not winning.
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4/28/2006  2:51 PM
Posted by jazz74:
Posted by gunsnewing:

talk to a philly fan who watches every game about dalembert


i live in south jersey so i watched him a lot. he is a great shot blocker from the weak side but not a solid "defender" if he plays straight up. guys can over power him or go around. awareness is not great. offense is horrid mostly. however, he is athletic and energetic. can work well with curry.


good post but I don't think it's as sure a thing as a frontline of Kenyon Martin & Curry. We have to many guys who can give us 13-20mins of inconsistent play. We need someone who can give us 32mins of consistent play
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4/28/2006  2:55 PM
if we can get Martin & Dalembert or Martin and Harrington, acquire a big SG and backup PG, with Larry coaching..I'll be estatic about next year!
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4/28/2006  3:24 PM
he is the reason philly didnt make the playoffs this year.....HE SUCKED DOWN THE STRETCH!!!
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