Posted by joec32033:

Jalen and the 22 to Portland for Ratliff, Blake and first pick.
Francis and the 29 to the Lakers for Odom
Marbury to Minny for Blount (OR Hudson and Bracey Wright, both of whom you would cut right away), Griffin, Hassell and the 7


Steve Francis
6-3 PG from Maryland
14.4 ppg, 4.1 rpg, 4.9 apg in 34.2 minutes

Stephon Marbury
6-2 PG from Georgia Tech
16.3 ppg, 2.9 rpg, 6.4 apg in 36.6 minutes

Jalen Rose
6-8 SG from Michigan
12.3 ppg, 2.9 rpg, 2.5 apg in 27.3 minutes
Pick 20
Pick 29

Incoming

Theo Ratliff
6-10 C from Wyoming
4.9 ppg, 5.1 rpg, 0.5 apg in 23.7 minutes

Steve Blake
6-3 PG from Maryland
8.2 ppg, 2.1 rpg, 4.5 apg in 26.2 minutes

Mark Blount
7-0 C from Pittsburgh
11.3 ppg, 4.5 rpg, 1.2 apg in 27.7 minutes

Trenton Hassell
6-5 SG from Austin Peay
9.2 ppg, 2.8 rpg, 2.6 apg in 32.7 minutes

Eddie Griffin
6-10 PF from Seton Hall
4.6 ppg, 5.6 rpg, 0.6 apg in 19.4 minutes

Lamar Odom
6-10 SF from Rhode Island
14.8 ppg, 9.2 rpg, 5.5 apg in 40.3 minutes
Change in team outlook: +10.0 ppg, +19.4 rpg, and +1.1 apg.
#1
#7

Portland Trade Breakdown
Outgoing

Theo Ratliff
6-10 C from Wyoming
4.9 ppg, 5.1 rpg, 0.5 apg in 23.7 minutes

Steve Blake
6-3 PG from Maryland
8.2 ppg, 2.1 rpg, 4.5 apg in 26.2 minutes
#1

Incoming

Jalen Rose
6-8 SG from Michigan
12.3 ppg, 2.9 rpg, 2.5 apg in 27.3 minutes
Change in team outlook: -0.8 ppg, -4.3 rpg, and -2.5 apg.
#29

Minnesota Trade Breakdown
Outgoing

Mark Blount
7-0 C from Pittsburgh
11.3 ppg, 4.5 rpg, 1.2 apg in 27.7 minutes

Trenton Hassell
6-5 SG from Austin Peay
9.2 ppg, 2.8 rpg, 2.6 apg in 32.7 minutes

Eddie Griffin
6-10 PF from Seton Hall
4.6 ppg, 5.6 rpg, 0.6 apg in 19.4 minutes
#7
Incoming

Stephon Marbury
6-2 PG from Georgia Tech
16.3 ppg, 2.9 rpg, 6.4 apg in 36.6 minutes
Change in team outlook: -8.8 ppg, -10.0 rpg, and +2.0 apg.

L.A. Lakers Trade Breakdown
Outgoing

Lamar Odom
6-10 SF from Rhode Island
14.8 ppg, 9.2 rpg, 5.5 apg in 40.3 minutes
Incoming

Steve Francis
6-3 PG from Maryland
14.4 ppg, 4.1 rpg, 4.9 apg in 34.2 minutes
Change in team outlook: -0.4 ppg, -5.1 rpg, and -0.6 apg.
#29

Successful Scenario



With pick 1 take Ty Thomas
With pick 7 take Marcus Williams

Curry/Ratliff
Ty or Frye/Frye or Ty/Griffin
Odom/Hassell/Lee
Craw/Q1
Blake/Marcus/Nate

13 man roster right there.


Jerome, Butler, Woods, Mo and Malik are left. Cut Jerome. Still have room for Butler. Mo as trade bait and Malik.

Another trade I would do is Mo and Malik for KMart and Najera.

Malik Rose
6-7 PF from Drexel
4.5 ppg, 3.6 rpg, 0.9 apg in 15.6 minutes

Maurice Taylor
6-9 PF from Michigan
6.3 ppg, 3.4 rpg, 0.8 apg in 18.0 minutes

Incoming

Eduardo Najera
6-8 SF from Oklahoma
5.4 ppg, 5.1 rpg, 0.8 apg in 22.7 minutes

Kenyon Martin
6-9 PF from Cincinnati
12.9 ppg, 6.3 rpg, 1.4 apg in 27.6 minutes
Successful Scenario

Cut Najera (FA after next year) that team would look like this.

Curry/Ratliff/Blount(IL)/Butler(IL)
KMart/Frye (who will swing to SF and C also)/Ty
Odom/Griffin/Lee(IL)
Craw/Q1
Blake/Nate/Marcus


[Edited by - joec32033 on 04-27-2006 05:48 AM]

[Edited by - joec32033 on 04-27-2006 05:51 AM]

Posted by TMS:

Posted by codeunknown:

Although TMS claims that a #1 pick hasn't been traded in the past, he is negligent of the fact that Portland is in a uniquely horrendous financial situation.

lol... it's not a claim dude... it's a fact... no team in the NBA has ever traded away a #1 overall pick to obtain cap space... you can spin it anyway you like to convince yourself it has a chance of happening, but i'll put up any amount of money against yours that POR will not trade their #1 pick strictly to obtain cap space w/o getting back some good talent in return.

TMS you have to be out of your mind to suggest "putting money" on a trade, which I'm saying *could* happen - obviously, there's a difference from stating its a certainty. Realize that.

It is a fact that the #1 pick hasn't been traded before - hopefully, you realize that your implicit claim - that its a fact which can be used as a precedent to predict the future with certainty - is false. Remember, you said there isn't a chance of it happening - that, unfortuntely for you, remains a claim and doesn't morph into a fact.

Again, it seems like you have a very limited understanding of Portland's financial situation. Lets start with a basic question. Does anyone here have an idea of who currently owns the Rose Garden?

Posted by TMS:

wow, you're really sticking your neck out codeunknown... hey, i "could" win the lottery tomorrow too... doesn't mean it's going to happen.
that, unfortuntely for me, remains a claim and doesn't morph it into a fact.

Posted by TMS:

Posted by codeunknown:

Posted by codeunknown:

Posted by TMS:

wow, you're really sticking your neck out codeunknown... hey, i "could" win the lottery tomorrow too... doesn't mean it's going to happen.
that, unfortuntely for me, remains a claim and doesn't morph it into a fact.

That's correct - I'm not sticking my neck out. I'm saying there is chance it could happen that isn't negligible. Which makes it all the more absurd that you would argue against it.

By the way, who owns the Rose Garden?

There's a fact you should know. Not a claim, a fact.

The answer is Global Spectrum. They happen to be the reason Portland can't turn a profit until 2023.

Global Spectrum manages the Rose Garden... get your facts straight

http://www.sportsbusinessdaily.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=sbd.preview&storyId=SBD2006041818
http://www.answers.com/topic/rose-garden-arena

now then... about my underwear.

I can't be sure that you own underwear.

Obviously the lenders own it. They hired Global Spectrum to manage the Rose Garden because since the Trail Blazers no longer have the reins. Glad you learned something.

Oh and some one put something in TMS's mouth. My zipper is stuck.

[Edited by - codeunknown on 04-27-2006 4:02 PM]

Posted by TMS:

you're quite the arrogant one to tell me that i'm the one who learned something when i'm the one who pointed out the fact that you were wrong.

Posted by TMS:

Posted by codeunknown:

Posted by TMS:

you're quite the arrogant one to tell me that i'm the one who learned something when i'm the one who pointed out the fact that you were wrong.

Pretending to be right doesn't serve anyone. You know EXACTLY what I meant. Detailing the 12 investors of PAM LLC. isn't high on my list of priorities.

i wasn't the one making condescending comments about my apparent lack of knowledge on the Portland Trailblazers organization & then proceeded to post inaccurate information w/o checking my facts first, was i? unlike you, i don't pretend to be an expert on any topic of discussion on this forum... i simply state my own opinions & state my reasons for having them... it doesn't take a scholar to look up the info on the internet before proclaiming knowledge on the issue (which is exactly what i did)... with all your flowery language & proclamations of understanding the financial situation of the Blazers, i'd figure you'd do the same... face it, you just punked yourself on this one.

Posted by TMS:

ok, here's a pat on the back for you mr. expert in finance.

Posted by TMS:

there now, was that so hard?