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Killa4luv
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4/22/2006  6:47 AM
Sacromento gets
Stevie Francis
[Denver's #1 pick is optional and I'd do it if asked to]

NY gets
A resigned Bonzie Wells at around 8 mil per for 3.
Kenny Thomas who has a longer contract but is a good rebounder and a solid defender.

Why for Sac
They need a scorer on their team badly. They miss Pejas scoring and Stevie will flourish outwest.


Why for NY
We need a solid starting 2 guard and Bonzi could be it. He rebounds, plays d, and is a solid offensive contributer.
Kenny Thomas, if nothing else is a good rebounder, but not a bad player overall.
This helps us with our 2 biggest needs, rebounding and defense, and we get rid of Francis too.
This is a no brainer for us.

[Edited by - Killa4luv on 04-22-2006 06:56 AM]
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4/22/2006  6:50 AM
Posted by Killa4luv:

Sacromento gets
Stevie
Denver's #1 pick

and we get what from Sacramento?

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Killa4luv
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4/22/2006  6:56 AM
Posted by Solace:
Posted by Killa4luv:

Sacromento gets
Stevie
Denver's #1 pick

and we get what from Sacramento?
I poste dbefore I was finished, I knew that would happen.
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4/22/2006  7:00 AM
Posted by Killa4luv:
Posted by Solace:
Posted by Killa4luv:

Sacromento gets
Stevie
Denver's #1 pick

and we get what from Sacramento?
I poste dbefore I was finished, I knew that would happen.

Hehehe, ok. Sorry for catching it so quick then. I woke up early on a Saturday, because I got to bed early last night after a long week. :) Go finish your post and I'll try to comment after you've completed. :P
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4/22/2006  8:48 AM
Posted by Killa4luv:

Sacromento gets
Stevie Francis
[Denver's #1 pick is optional and I'd do it if asked to]

NY gets
A resigned Bonzie Wells at around 8 mil per for 3.
Kenny Thomas who has a longer contract but is a good rebounder and a solid defender.

Why for Sac
They need a scorer on their team badly. They miss Pejas scoring and Stevie will flourish outwest.


Why for NY
We need a solid starting 2 guard and Bonzi could be it. He rebounds, plays d, and is a solid offensive contributer.
Kenny Thomas, if nothing else is a good rebounder, but not a bad player overall.
This helps us with our 2 biggest needs, rebounding and defense, and we get rid of Francis too.
This is a no brainer for us.

[Edited by - Killa4luv on 04-22-2006 06:56 AM]

Hate to tell you killa but sacremento will not trade bonzi wells a punishing 6'5 200 pounder 2 guard for francis and denver's pick.. No way, Jose!!! Why would they want bibby and francis, both under 6'4 in their backcourt???

I had recommended a trade for Bonzi instead of crawford a couple of yrs back but didn't think West wanted anyone from the knicks @ the time..

Geoff Petrie, a brilliant g.m. for Sac and who i think the knicks should pursue to replace Ass iah will not do such deal with the knicks especially with Ass iah..

you also putting kenny T in the mix.. No it happens... they'll be losing 2 good rebounders and gaining a pick which we all don't know will turn out and a shorter 2 guard.. Naaaaaaaaa, won't happen..
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4/22/2006  9:09 AM
Bibbr Ron Brad Shareef

Sac is not without scoring and besides with Artest outscoring people has morphed some and will likely continue. What they do lack is height and a back-up point guard for Mike.

backup point they'll likely address through the draft and height through free agency.



[Edited by - mcK1 on 04-22-2006 09:09 AM]
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4/22/2006  10:30 AM
Sadly, I think the best "thing" we can get for Francis is Eddy Jones and maybe a pick.
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4/22/2006  11:03 AM
Posted by WOODMANnYk:

Hate to tell you killa but sacremento will not trade bonzi wells a punishing 6'5 200 pounder 2 guard for francis and denver's pick.. No way, Jose!!!


Bonzi's a FA next year.
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4/22/2006  11:08 AM
francis is going to denver for kmart.

i'm almost 100% convinced that we have a handshake deal already, that's why francis is here.
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4/22/2006  11:26 AM
Posted by djsunyc:

francis is going to denver for kmart.

i'm almost 100% convinced that we have a handshake deal already, that's why francis is here.

That would not be a bad deal.
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4/22/2006  11:51 AM
Posted by NYKBocker:
Posted by djsunyc:

francis is going to denver for kmart.

i'm almost 100% convinced that we have a handshake deal already, that's why francis is here.

That would not be a bad deal.

I don't like it. I thought Denver gave him way too much money even when his knees still looked okay. Now I have big concerns about his health along with his long-term high-priced salary. I don't think he's worth it.

Plus on the other side of the deal, does Denver move Miller? Play Stevie at the 2? How unappealling must that look to them?
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4/22/2006  11:54 AM
Posted by Marv:
Posted by NYKBocker:
Posted by djsunyc:

francis is going to denver for kmart.

i'm almost 100% convinced that we have a handshake deal already, that's why francis is here.

That would not be a bad deal.

I don't like it. I thought Denver gave him way too much money even when his knees still looked okay. Now I have big concerns about his health along with his long-term high-priced salary. I don't think he's worth it.

Plus on the other side of the deal, does Denver move Miller? Play Stevie at the 2? How unappealling must that look to them?

it's a lesser of two evils. plus kmart's contract is insured so if he can't go b/c of his knees, we won't have to pay the majority of it and it could come off the cap quicker.

if this is the only deal available for francis, you have to make it. but b/c of the health issue, i would like to get a pick in return...or possibly nene (but we may have to include our picks).
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4/22/2006  11:58 AM
Although I hate K.Martin, its certainly a decent deal. We just have to make something with so many PF's: Malik, Taylor, Frye, Lee...

Anyway, I still prefer to get Eddy Jones and a future 1sr round pick from Memphis for Francis, and I consider it to be a fair trade.
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4/22/2006  1:21 PM
Posted by DarkKnicks:

Although I hate K.Martin, its certainly a decent deal. We just have to make something with so many PF's: Malik, Taylor, Frye, Lee...

Anyway, I still prefer to get Eddy Jones and a future 1sr round pick from Memphis for Francis, and I consider it to be a fair trade.

I'd prefer it to. Kmart is a god player, but his game is 100% athleticism and his contract is ridiculous. Gimme eddie and a pick.
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4/22/2006  1:39 PM
only Knick Sac may have an interest in is Crawford or Nate to play the role Bobby Jackson use to fill.
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4/22/2006  1:44 PM
May or may not be plausible - try this idea out for size:

Francis and both of our 2006 1st round picks to Atlanta for their 2006 lottery pick.

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4/22/2006  4:10 PM
I'd much rather have Kmart getting minutes than MoT and Malik. Frye and Kmart at PF is not bad at all.
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4/23/2006  3:24 PM
Posted by Marv:
Posted by NYKBocker:
Posted by djsunyc:

francis is going to denver for kmart.

i'm almost 100% convinced that we have a handshake deal already, that's why francis is here.

That would not be a bad deal.

I don't like it. I thought Denver gave him way too much money even when his knees still looked okay. Now I have big concerns about his health along with his long-term high-priced salary. I don't think he's worth it.

Plus on the other side of the deal, does Denver move Miller? Play Stevie at the 2? How unappealling must that look to them?

MArtin goes to the knicks and so what happens to the glut of power forwards on this knicks team?? M.Rose, Mo taylor, Frye, LEE, Butler???

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4/23/2006  5:15 PM
franchise for odom
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