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4/20/2006  11:27 PM
GREENBURGH, New York, April 20, 2006 -- Without a doubt, this was one bad season for the Knicks. “It’s years like this that make you want to go into the summer and push even harder,” center Eddy Curry said. “So you won’t have a repeat.” Still, even the worst of seasons don’t necessarily have to be completely without some random rays of promise of a brighter future.

For instance, in an entirely unexpected development, how did the previously dubious-defending Jamal Crawford become the most improved -- perhaps even the best -- Knicks player by the end of the year, drawing all kinds of kudos from his forever defensively minded mentor? “I just listened,” Crawford kicked off the team’s “Clean Out Your Lockers” day in the most matter-of-fact manner. “With a Hall of Fame coach, I’d have been crazy not to. I have to take advantage of being around him. If I had a good year, as some people say, all the credit must go to Coach for helping me offensively and defensively.”

So is listening one big key to change? “That -- and chemistry,” said Crawford. “My single biggest disappointment this year had to be the difference between the caliber of the names we put on the floor and the number of wins we had. To have this much talent and this good a coach and still not be able to produce.”

“From my vantage-point at least, we were lacking in cohesion and chemistry,” rookie Channing Frye agreed. ”We have to come back taking more pride in defense and making the extra pass.”

“We haven’t taken advantage of all the talent and the coaching we had this season,” said David Lee. “It was a missed opportunity.”

Player after player mentioned “time spent together as a team” as the number one key to developing chemistry. “The Eastern Conference is not the best conference in the world these days,” Jalen Rose said. “After Detroit, Miami, and maybe Cleveland, there’s plenty of room in the playoffs. I firmly believe that if this roster has time to jell -- if we are together starting with training camp -- we can make some noise.”

But that won’t happen without better communication, according to Malik Rose. “This last season, I think we all wanted to win,” he said. “But I don’t think we ever got on the same page about how exactly go about winning. There were misunderstandings on everybody’s part. The problem was not in the 42 different starting lineups -- I think Coach just wanted to get us on some kind of a winning roll and tried anything possible to accomplish that. He was trying every match-up, every possible combination.”

“When you win 23 games, you are just trying to find answers,” agreed Crawford.

“It IS very important, however, to have as-clear-as-possible channels of communication between Stephon (Marbury) and Larry (Brown),” added Rose. “Larry, after all, is the coach -- and the point guard, quite literally, is the coach on the floor.”

“I have no doubt Steph and Coach can work together in harmony,” rookie Nate Robinson said. “They need each other. And we as a team need both of them in order to win.”

On the other hand, “Coach and I had excellent communication,” Curry said. “I believe that he thinks of me very highly as a person and I think of him very highly as a person. I can’t speak for anybody else but I know I never tuned him out, not for one minute, not until the very last minute of the last game.”

“We’ve got to commit to the fact that it’s all about winning,” said Jalen Rose. “Sometimes when you get off to a bad start, as this team did, it’s hard to remember that you can find a way to turn it around, come all the way back and win. Things spiral out of the way a little bit and you forget what’s important.”

Specifically, in his meeting with Knicks executives, Curry was told by Brown and President, Basketball Operations Isiah Thomas to “just play basketball over the summer, get into better shape, just be around the game as much as possible.” “Last year, as you know, I was not able to do that,” the young center said. “And it hurt my performance, definitely.”

Curry will even accompany the team “to Las Vegas, to the Summer League, just to show my commitment and be around the guys. I will do whatever it takes to turn this into a positive experience both for myself and for the city of New York.”

Robinson was told “to work on becoming the point guard I can be,” he said. ”And on becoming one of the best defensive guard in the league. Coach said he has total confidence in me that I can do that.” Frye will concentrate on “better recognition on what the other team gives me -- that comes only with experience -- my defensive strength and positioning, and ball handling.”

Lee will prepare “to play both forward spots,” he said. “That means that, in order to play small forward, I must work on my shooting and handle. Also on defending the “three” -- while I’m pretty comfortable defending the post, after LeBron (James) hit a couple of ‘three-s’ on me, coach asked what I was doing on the screen-and-roll? And that’s when I realized that I never defended the screen-and-roll before.”

As for the most controversial issues surrounding the team, “Larry Brown has made me a better man this year,’’ Marbury said. “I got a chance to learn a lot about myself. I learned that everything doesn’t go the way you want it to go. Coach taught me how to deal with adversity. We met and he said he didn’t want to trade me. He told me he wants me back unless he can get Kobe or Kevin Garnett for me. I told him if you can get Kobe you’ve got to do that.”

“We’re both on the same page,” added Marbury. “This by far is going to make me a better player. This year wasn’t about basketball, it was more about life. We talked about just us, as far as trust. It’s all resolved now, definitely. I think we’ll have a much better understanding through communication, through going out to eat with each other, him being around my family, me spending time with his family.”

“When I said I’ll play like Starbury I never meant I was going to be insubordinate and not listen to the coach. I meant I’ll play the way I play but, at the same time, incorporate his style AND my style.”

Equally directly, Brown said “I’ll be back to coach this team next season. The games I missed, I got the flu. I have the acid reflux and, I guess with the combination of both, I was sick. The doctors were being cautious and told me to stay away. So did Isiah. But it’s not going to affect whether I can coach or not. In fact, I’m better off (health-wise) than I was when I took the job.”

“I want to be back. I want to finish my contract here and be part of the Knicks. Especially since we won 23 games -- and I feel directly responsible for that. People invested a lot in me and have faith in me and I’m anxious to get started.”

“I never imagined when I took the job it was going to be easy -- but I never imagined we’d play so many young kids. I think they’ll get better. And I think we’re all committed to improving this team, whether by making our players better or by finding players who can do some things we need to do.”

“Look, Detroit came within one game of winning the championship and they got six new players,” added Brown. “San Antonio won a championship and they got six new players. We won 23 games -- so to sit here and think that we’ll stand pat is kind of silly.”

“I don’t think our record is indicative of the type of coach Larry is or of the type of players we have,” agreed Thomas. “That being said, we still have just 23 wins. Something was wrong. Over the summer we’ll figure it out and make corrections. I know we both have enough intestinal fortitude to do that.”

“I am loyal to winning, not to any single individual,” said Thomas. “I love all the players -- but I’m all about winning. I’m going to do what I need to do to make our team better. That’s my only agenda, to put together a winning basketball team.”

“Outside of Detroit and maybe Indy, Coach generally starts slow,” added Thomas. ”If you look at his history, he’s a slow starter. Then he picks up steam and all of a sudden players start to do what he wants them to do. GM-s such as myself find a way to get him the things that he needs -- and he finds a way to win.”

“This is just the first year,” said Brown. “We got a job to do. I’m confident that we’ll straighten this thing out.”

I couldn't have said it better myself.

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4/20/2006  11:35 PM
I liked the article, especially what they told the kids to work on,but I have to ask....why was it that they told Frye to work on his ball-handling? I mean, improving it is great but from the PF spot don't you think it would be a secondary type thing.....Maybe they plan to give Frye some burn at SF with his perimeter oriented game?
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4/20/2006  11:42 PM
Posted by joec32033:

I liked the article, especially what they told the kids to work on,but I have to ask....why was it that they told Frye to work on his ball-handling? I mean, improving it is great but from the PF spot don't you think it would be a secondary type thing.....Maybe they plan to give Frye some burn at SF with his perimeter oriented game?


Well I'm not sure but if he is able to put the ball on the floor, it can just create all sorts of problems off the pick and roll, and adds another dimension to his offensive game...Imagine him hitting his J on a regular basis and U D up and he goes by you.....

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4/20/2006  11:57 PM
Just wondering but what were they supposed to say? That was so predictable and we heard all of this BS before but it didn't turn out real well now did it.

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4/21/2006  12:03 AM
Posted by holfresh:
Posted by joec32033:

I liked the article, especially what they told the kids to work on,but I have to ask....why was it that they told Frye to work on his ball-handling? I mean, improving it is great but from the PF spot don't you think it would be a secondary type thing.....Maybe they plan to give Frye some burn at SF with his perimeter oriented game?


Well I'm not sure but if he is able to put the ball on the floor, it can just create all sorts of problems off the pick and roll, and adds another dimension to his offensive game...Imagine him hitting his J on a regular basis and U D up and he goes by you.....


I agree....but that seems alot like a description of more of a small forward's game to me....there are not alot of truly perimeter oriented PF's in the league (I can think of Dirk, KG off the top of my head....and looking at a list of PF's there is really no other Perimeter PF's that are comparable to Frye's game)
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4/21/2006  12:04 AM
Posted by islesfan:

Just wondering but what were they supposed to say? That was so predictable and we heard all of this BS before but it didn't turn out real well now did it.

There's one reason Curry is going to Vegas and it isn't to finally get in shape.

Alot of it is cookie cutter stuff...I bypassed alot of the stuff, but telling Frye to work on his ball handling really stood out to me.
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4/21/2006  12:08 AM
Posted by islesfan:

Just wondering but what were they supposed to say? That was so predictable and we heard all of this BS before but it didn't turn out real well now did it.

There's one reason Curry is going to Vegas and it isn't to finally get in shape.


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4/21/2006  1:04 AM
I found two things interesting, first that curry will join the team in the SL, that I think is a nice gesture and a smart thing to do, it shows he cares at least..

And David lee saying he never defended the screen and roll before, it just goes to show, how green some of these guys were, I think we forget sometimes that they (lee, frye, and nate) were just rookies....
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4/21/2006  1:13 AM
Posted by joec32033:

why was it that they told Frye to work on his ball-handling?

Frye will concentrate on “better recognition on what the other team gives me -- that comes only with experience -- my defensive strength and positioning, and ball handling.”

He mentioned it within the context of recognizing what the defense gives him. I guess he intends to get better at dribbling when they press him, stopping and popping. Kinda like what Dirk does. Can Frye do that? I don't know. That takes special talent. I hope he can do it.

As far as the rest of the quotes. It's all fluff. I'm not predicting doom for eternity, but, top to bottom, the team has it's work cut out for it.
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4/21/2006  7:41 AM
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And David lee saying he never defended the screen and roll before

what is wrong with these guys? people that bash LB for not playing such and such enough should really take a look at that statement. You were told in October we want you to play the 3, you realize in game 70 something perimeter D is something you have no idea about

so what exactly were you working on during the season

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4/21/2006  7:58 AM
Posted by islesfan:

Just wondering but what were they supposed to say? That was so predictable and we heard all of this BS before but it didn't turn out real well now did it.

There's one reason Curry is going to Vegas and it isn't to finally get in shape.

yeah, he's not playing in the summer L... just going to Vegas.
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4/21/2006  8:00 AM
Posted by McK1:
Posted by tkf:



And David lee saying he never defended the screen and roll before

what is wrong with these guys? people that bash LB for not playing such and such enough should really take a look at that statement. You were told in October we want you to play the 3, you realize in game 70 something perimeter D is something you have no idea about

so what exactly were you working on during the season
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4/21/2006  8:23 AM
Posted by Caseloads:
Posted by McK1:
Posted by tkf:



And David lee saying he never defended the screen and roll before

what is wrong with these guys? people that bash LB for not playing such and such enough should really take a look at that statement. You were told in October we want you to play the 3, you realize in game 70 something perimeter D is something you have no idea about

so what exactly were you working on during the season
speaking from experience - you can't put something into practice that you've never learned.

are you saying he hasn't been taught or he just isn't listening I can't imagine Larry Brown not teaching and demonstrating over and over and over and over again how to defend the pick and roll.
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4/21/2006  8:32 AM
Posted by eViL:
Posted by joec32033:

why was it that they told Frye to work on his ball-handling?

Frye will concentrate on “better recognition on what the other team gives me -- that comes only with experience -- my defensive strength and positioning, and ball handling.”

He mentioned it within the context of recognizing what the defense gives him. I guess he intends to get better at dribbling when they press him, stopping and popping. Kinda like what Dirk does. Can Frye do that? I don't know. That takes special talent. I hope he can do it.

As far as the rest of the quotes. It's all fluff. I'm not predicting doom for eternity, but, top to bottom, the team has it's work cut out for it.

I interpreted it a little differently because he separated "what the defense gives me" with his defensive strength and positioning-basically it's the same thing but in the context he said it looked like something that he was specifically told to work on. I agree I was gonna post examples of Dirk and maybe KG having the same type of game in my origional post, but both those guys play a very point forward type of roll where as I think Frye's game would more resemble Rasheed.
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4/21/2006  8:37 AM
Rasheed can dribble.

being able to put the ball on the floor is a necessary skill no matter what position. Amongst big men its one of those things that seperates players.




[Edited by - McK1 on 04-21-2006 08:39 AM]
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4/21/2006  8:43 AM
other big men who can dribble:

Duncan
Camby
Boozer
Randolph
Gasol
Howard
Bosh


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4/21/2006  8:49 AM
Posted by djsunyc:
Posted by islesfan:

Just wondering but what were they supposed to say? That was so predictable and we heard all of this BS before but it didn't turn out real well now did it.

There's one reason Curry is going to Vegas and it isn't to finally get in shape.


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Remember Eddy's comment about his personal chef at the beginning of the season - making him fried catfish????? I mean c'mon, I love that stuff too, but I'm not supposed to be in semblance of NBA shape.
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4/21/2006  8:58 AM
Frye to the three spot

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4/21/2006  9:00 AM
Posted by McK1:

other big men who can dribble:

Duncan
Camby
Boozer
Randolph
Gasol
Howard
Bosh

All play PF and none are the perimieter threat (maybe Duncan) that compare to Frye's range. Frye is most closely related to Rasheed or Dirk-IMO- because he is not an overpowering guy like Duncan, Howard, Randolph, Boozer....or a quick guy like Bosh or Camby(who BTW I don't think should be on this list).
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4/21/2006  9:07 AM
Posted by joec32033:
Posted by McK1:

other big men who can dribble:

Duncan
Camby
Boozer
Randolph
Gasol
Howard
Bosh

All play PF and none are the perimieter threat (maybe Duncan) that compare to Frye's range. Frye is most closely related to Rasheed or Dirk-IMO- because he is not an overpowering guy like Duncan, Howard, Randolph, Boozer....or a quick guy like Bosh or Camby(who BTW I don't think should be on this list).



Randolph has a great jumpshot and so does Bosh but that isn't the point. Being able to DRIVE is what will make Frye less Kurt Thomas like and more Sheed like in the half court and when the team breaks.

And add Martin Stoudamire and Brand to that list because they can put the ball on the floor as well.

The elite 4's can do more than just spot up shoot. They can put people on their hip and score and they have a FACE-UP game

[Edited by - McK1 on 04-21-2006 09:09 AM]

[Edited by - McK1 on 04-21-2006 09:21 AM]
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