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islesfan
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Who is it more important for you to see succeed? If people really want to drink Kool-Aid, why don't you drink New York Knicks brand instead of Isiah's. After all, who are you rooting for, the Knicks or Isiah? And don't say both because then you can't be objective as to the direction and state of the Knicks. I would think that most fans would want to see the Knicks succeed and if its obvious that whoever is in charge of running the team is doing a bad job then they'd agree that he needs to be replaced. And for those who like to think that nobody blames LB, you're totally wrong. He deserves his share of the blame as well and if they got rid of him too, I don't think many people here would shed a tear, just as long as the person who hired him and acquired all of these players is gone too.
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TMS
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4/20/2006  10:28 AM
what kind of question is this? anyone who says "Isiah" for this one doesn't belong on this forum.
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Pharzeone
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4/20/2006  11:33 AM
It is a ridculous question with someone that has an agenda against the individual in question. It is a progranda tatic, plain and simple(took those political science classes). Much like:

"If you oppose the war, then how can you support the troops?" or "What's more important your personal liberties or your family's personal safety?" Hmm...

Why is the question NYK vs. Isiah? why not NYK vs. NYK GM because it no longer takes on a personal tone.

TMS response is what is generally looked for too.
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Allanfan20
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4/20/2006  11:34 AM
Please lock this thread.
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islesfan
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4/20/2006  11:38 AM
Posted by Pharzeone:

It is a ridculous question with someone that has an agenda against the individual in question. It is a progranda tatic, plain and simple(took those political science classes). Much like:

"If you oppose the war, then how can you support the troops?" or "What's more important your personal liberties or your family's personal safety?" Hmm...

Why is the question NYK vs. Isiah? why not NYK vs. NYK GM because it no longer takes on a personal tone.

TMS response is what is generally looked for too.

"I would think that most fans would want to see the Knicks succeed and if its obvious that whoever is in charge of running the team is doing a bad job then they'd agree that he needs to be replaced."

Nope, no mention of Isiah there.

At the moment, Isiah is the GM and he's the one whose head should roll for this debacle. As for naming him, it seems that Isiah gets a free pass around here with most people looking to blame LB or Dolan. While they certainly are deserving of blame, especially Dolan, there is no longer any reason to support the job that Isiah is doing.
If it didn’t work in Phoenix with Nash and Stoutamire... it’s just not a winning formula. It’s an entertaining formula, but not a winning one. - Derek Harper talking about D'Antoni's System
islesfan
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4/20/2006  11:38 AM
Posted by Allanfan20:

Please lock this thread.

Can I ask why?
If it didn’t work in Phoenix with Nash and Stoutamire... it’s just not a winning formula. It’s an entertaining formula, but not a winning one. - Derek Harper talking about D'Antoni's System
misterearl
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4/20/2006  11:39 AM
Who is it more important for you to see succeed?

Jackie Butler

djsunyc

Nate

The Bulls first round pick

Halle Berry

Eddy Curry

none of the above

Donald Rumsfeld

Rush Limbaugh

Danny Ainge

Lenny Wilkens

Joe Frazier

Walt Frazier





once a knick always a knick
TMS
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4/20/2006  1:00 PM
who's the guy who voted Isiah? Man up!
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Bippity10
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4/20/2006  1:26 PM
I voted for Isiah. I was born in Isiah hospital and I have to be true to my roots
I just hope that people will like me
holfresh
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4/20/2006  1:35 PM


This is silly..
islesfan
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4/20/2006  1:40 PM
Posted by holfresh:


This is silly..

No sillier than trying to defend Isiah or LB until you're out of breath.

If Isiah, LB, Marbury or anybody else is part of the problem and not part of the solution then as Knicks fans I think we can all agree that they need to go. After all, we're all here because we're Knicks fans, not because we're fans of Isiah, LB, Marbury, et al.
If it didn’t work in Phoenix with Nash and Stoutamire... it’s just not a winning formula. It’s an entertaining formula, but not a winning one. - Derek Harper talking about D'Antoni's System
BasketballJones
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4/20/2006  2:23 PM
Well, clearly the answer has to be an unequivical "Isiah Lord Thomas III".
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LongIslandKnicksFan
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4/20/2006  3:20 PM
I think if we pick "Isiah" then we will be called unloyal. I think that isles fan made this as a trick question because he wants us all to say 'New York Knicks' and agree that Isiah isn't right for the team. I am starting to believe that....Well since the middle of the season... I don't know. Whatever Dolan wants to do, he will do.
arkrud
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4/20/2006  3:49 PM
I think all this guys - Dolan, IT, LB, Marbs did a horrible job as far as basketball is concern.
But they did a fantastic job as far as business is concern...
Look... All of them make a bunch of dollars now and will in the years to come. The attention is brought to the arena, players, Kinicks as organization. Not only attention of us - basketball fans but everybody. Who cares if the story is bad - it's a STORY!!!
These guys are exactly like Mr. Bush and Co. Did a horrible job for American people but perfect business for themselves and for whoever paid for their elections - Oil and Farma moguls, Gulf kings, Chinese billionaires, etc...
"There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy." Hamlet
efw
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4/20/2006  3:57 PM
I voted for Isiah because I like to root for the underdog. Until now, the Knicks were that underdog but no longer. The majority of you have sided with the Knicks. Well, I'm going for the little guy.

C'mon Zeke you can do it!!! You can beat the.... or win ... or ... wait what am I rooting for him to do?

Oh yeah - succeed! C'mon Isiah, you can succeed. You can do it! Oh wait...but if you succeed, than the Knicks will succeed! Sh!T. I don't want that to happen.

What am I to do? Oh lordy, what a quandary. This is like an Escher puzzle. all roads lead to...
Bonn1997
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4/21/2006  9:33 AM
Posted by TMS:

who's the guy who voted Isiah? Man up!

When I see ridiculous polls like this, I just vote for the option that the poster would hate to see people vote for! So, Bip and I are two of the three who voted for Isiah!
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4/21/2006  9:34 AM
Stupid question. Please delete.
all kool aid all the time.
rvhoss
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4/21/2006  9:41 AM
I voted Isiah because this is a stupid poll.
all kool aid all the time.
OngBok
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4/21/2006  9:45 AM
Hey Mr. Monitors can you pull a Dido on islesfan ??? PLEASE !!!
Isiah Thomas will lead us back to the playoffs in 2006 !!!
djsunyc
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4/21/2006  9:48 AM
i do want to say one thing about the isiah "regime"...when he got here, the team was boring under layden. the knicks were pretty insignificant in the landscape of the nba. but under isiah's watch, we are now the laughingstock of the league and the butt of almost every basketball joke around. that's not a good thing.
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4/21/2006  11:38 AM
dj: Although I dont' disagree that we are a laughingstock of the NBA and the butt of every joke. But I think you are mistaken in thinking that this wasn't the situation 3 and 4 years ago because we have been the butt of every joke for years now. This is not new.
I just hope that people will like me
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