when Wilcox started for Brand last year when he was hurt he put up monster numbers then also. The guy is the real deal

Posted by fishmike:

when Wilcox started for Brand last year when he was hurt he put up monster numbers then also. The guy is the real deal

maybe, I still would like to see him do it for a whole year, when it is expected, a lot of guys play well in spot duty knowing their time is limited. Not saying that he is not capable, I just want to see more..

Would they be terrible if they drafted Chris Paul? My point that smith and johnson are future all-stars we don't really have any, they also have marvin williams this years pick and harrington and childress to possibly trade....

So if they are run the right way and hang onto their cap room and don't be fools your looking at a tough team in a year or too

So they are looking at possibly

Johnson
Smith
Marvin Williams
Alridge

And they have two very tradable players and a serivable big, teams if they are run right can come out of it quickly

I watched the game last night. Wilcox' energy level was unmatched by anyone on Houston. He was rebounding shots no matter what direction they came off the rim.

He didn't score off all dunks either. He played on the block hitting turnarounds and fallaways. Chris biggest problem is he has absolutely no left hand.

briggs-jamal crawford is the best midrange jumpshooter in the nba just like you said and the houston rockets are going to win the championship

Posted by tomverve:

briggs-jamal crawford is the best midrange jumpshooter in the nba just like you said and the houston rockets are going to win the championship

Don't forget that the Knicks are serious title contenders now that they have Eddy Curry!
We all make big mistakes in judgment, including me for sure. That's why we're fans, not experts. I don't get the point in starting a new thread singling out a poster. A couple of times I did something similar in bringing back old threads to show that a poster's prediction was way off, but I realize there's really no point to that either. Why would anyone get enjoyment from demonstarting that some stranger they never met made a poor judgment?

Isiah would rather have another malcontent in Drew Gooden.

Posted by MS:

Would they be terrible if they drafted Chris Paul? My point that smith and johnson are future all-stars we don't really have any, they also have marvin williams this years pick and harrington and childress to possibly trade....

So if they are run the right way and hang onto their cap room and don't be fools your looking at a tough team in a year or too

So they are looking at possibly

Johnson
Smith
Marvin Williams
Alridge

And they have two very tradable players and a serivable big, teams if they are run right can come out of it quickly

OK,and if we had drafted amare instead of trading the pick, would we not be a better team now also? that question you asked me makes no sense man.

Put all your feelings aside about this year, this horrible year, do you think josh smith is better than frye? the numbers don't show it and josh is in his second year already. I see josh play a lot, I go to a ton of games, Josh is a very athletic player, but to say he is better than every knick, which would include frye and curry, I am not buying it.. Joe Johnson is a very good player, but lets be real, we just played them with Butler, lee, crawford, nate on the floor, took them into double OT and beat them without a starter. So how good are they really? There is a lot of individual talent in the league, there is no doubt, but when that doesn't translate into team wins, you have to question how good they really are, so don't feed me this crap that they are future allstars, that means nothing to me, they are not allstars, that is the fact right now.....

Posted by MS:

Actually comparing teams missing on Amare to a Hawks team that passed on Paul is totally different. He is the best pg prospect to come out since Jason Kidd, the Hawks needed a pg but instead they take a pf which they already have, two to be exact.....then they agree to give up picks and diaw for johnson when they don't have too, kind of like giving houston an extra 35 million for no reason....bad managment

So Curry is better than Josh Smith in what respect....he is 2inches taller than him?

Curry age 23 (13.9pts 6.3rbs .67blks)
Smith age 20 (10.5pts 6.6rbs 2.52blks)
Frye age 22 (12.3pts 5.8rbs .72blks) granted numbers may be a little higher if with hawks, but he isn't athletic and can't keep up with anyone that is

So why is Curry a better player? He doesn't defend or rebound or block shots and has never done any of them and is three years older, smith has already shown improvement in his range and overall ability

Joe Johnson is 24 years old shoots it at 46% scores 20 hands out 6 dimes and pulls down 4 boards, I'll take that anyday of the week, they are without a center and point guard two things that are the most important positions in basketball

And if you don't think they are future all-stars frankly your not only an ******* you don't know the game....Smith is going to be one of the better rebounders in the league in a couple of years and already is a top shot blocker is long and runs the floor you get a decent pg out there and he's up to 16-18pts very easy.....The Hawks have a terrible front office, bad coaching and the wrong mix of players, which sounds familiar....

If they make the right trade and get a distributor in there they turn the corner very quickly. So my question makes perfect sense

you are so mixed up, you don't know weither you are comming or going.. How is it not the same? the knicks passed on amare! the same way the Hawks passed on Paul, same thing, how is that different? are you telling me we didn't need amare? go ahead and explain that one... the hawks are foolish, so what, stop making excuses, maybe they took marvin williams because they didn't believe that smith would be no more than a very good role player? has that thought ever occured to you?

So Curry is better than Josh Smith in what respect....he is 2inches taller than him?

I don't know, maybe because curry is a center who shoots over 50% from the field and gets to the line twice as much as josh does. Requires double teams and also has at ton of upside, combine that with the fact that he is taller, yea that matters..... This is a big mans game...

And if you don't think they are future all-stars frankly your not only an ******* you don't know the game

And if you don't think frye and curry are future allstars, then you are a ****ing ****, because you don't know the game. is this what you resort to now? name calling, what a pathetic person you are. You are upset because I don't think two guys are going to be allstars in a league of fantastic players, what a moron you are. Do you know that the chances of either not becomming all star are greater than becomming one? Do I need to point out that there are guys in both leagues name, wade, pierce, Kobe, amare, West(from NOK),bosh, Lebron, Marion, both wallaces on detroit, rookies like frye and CV from toronto who are both promising, KG, Dwight Howard, Richard Jefferson and the list goes on and on, Are you telling me for a certainty that Josh smith and JJ are going to beat any of these guys out for allstar spots? see how got damn silly you sound? do you see?

If they make the right trade and get a distributor in there they turn the corner very quickly. So my question makes perfect sense

oh got damnit, stop backpedaling, you said they would be much better with paul, chris is much more than a "distributor" He is a stud, floor general, all around player. I will give you a distributor, Chris duhon, are you telling me that he would of had the same effect? stop with your nonsense. this silly talk of if they had drafted paul is nonsense,if, if, if... hell again, if we had signed Kobe all would be great, if we had tanked and got lebron, we would be a playof team, if you knew basketball you would make some sense....