Larry Brown has groomed Derrick Mckey from the pacers, George Lynch from the 76ers and he sure helped tayshaun Prince blossomed.. oh i think Brown coached Sean Elliot's 1sy yr with the Spurs in 89-90

As for the Knicks, it will be Qyntel Woods!!! So far, he's bought into Larry's system since his arrival...

More than likely, his chances in becoming the starting SF next yr has growned.. Larry was the one who insisted in bringing Woods over here..

I believe he's a steal since the knicks got him dirtcheap... Not paid like some of the players on the roster

Despite the baggage, he can flatout play!!!! He rebounds, plays a bit of defense and considered an all- around athlete..

Only thing he needs work on is turning the ball over alot.. Only 25yrs old and admits liking Brown's system.

Please, we don't need Odom(no heart), Pierce(talks too much s**t) Mcgrady(injury proned), Rashard Lewis(can't rebound) for 6'10, Ricky D, Wally S or even Mo Pete.

Start Woods next season and let him make a name for himself, eventually he'll be able to hang with the rest of them (other small SF around the league)

Larry Brown traded for McKey and Lynch after they were established players

Woods may end up being LB's Jumaine Jones ie spark off the bench who can make an outside shot

What annoys me is woods plays heavy minutes one night and then gets benched the next few games. Woods has been producing big time offensively. Unlike a lot of guys on the knicks he can hit an open jumper and he will make shots in crunch time.

He does turnover the ball too much. I think that's because he hardly plays. When he does turn it over its off a pass that would be an assist if he and the guys where used to playing with each other....chemistry plays a big part in what goes on out there and brown has done everything to kill that from day one.

Woods defense is also suspect but the guy is trying. He looks like he kills himself when he gets beat. You can tell by his body language and facial expression.

Anyway....woods is ours. Right now the knicks should show loyalty and offer him a chance to start and brown should make him feel like he is wanted. Woods is a free agent! Woods is going to be hot this off season. If we like him the NBA scouts already have a booklet of scouting reports on him. The knicks have the inside lead on him. They gotta make him feel wanted.

Posted by EnySpree:

What annoys me is woods plays heavy minutes one night and then gets benched the next few games. Woods has been producing big time offensively. Unlike a lot of guys on the knicks he can hit an open jumper and he will make shots in crunch time.

He does turnover the ball too much. I think that's because he hardly plays. When he does turn it over its off a pass that would be an assist if he and the guys where used to playing with each other....chemistry plays a big part in what goes on out there and brown has done everything to kill that from day one.

Woods defense is also suspect but the guy is trying. He looks like he kills himself when he gets beat. You can tell by his body language and facial expression.

Anyway....woods is ours. Right now the knicks should show loyalty and offer him a chance to start and brown should make him feel like he is wanted. Woods is a free agent! Woods is going to be hot this off season. If we like him the NBA scouts already have a booklet of scouting reports on him. The knicks have the inside lead on him. They gotta make him feel wanted.

I am not offering an excuse or a reason, just some thoughts:

It could be that Brown is developing some of the young players in a different way. Limit minutes when they aren't doing the right thing, don't put them in when the matchup is overtly one-sided against the Knicks' player, play them when they can succeed in the right way.

Every team in the NBA had a shot at Woods at the beginning of this offseason and I am guessing, for one reason or another, didn't strike an accord with him. That the Knicks gave him a shot for this season is ample reason to believe the Knicks will have the first shot at keeping him long term. And we hope it's at a minimal cost.

Posted by martin:

Posted by EnySpree:

What annoys me is woods plays heavy minutes one night and then gets benched the next few games. Woods has been producing big time offensively. Unlike a lot of guys on the knicks he can hit an open jumper and he will make shots in crunch time.

He does turnover the ball too much. I think that's because he hardly plays. When he does turn it over its off a pass that would be an assist if he and the guys where used to playing with each other....chemistry plays a big part in what goes on out there and brown has done everything to kill that from day one.

Woods defense is also suspect but the guy is trying. He looks like he kills himself when he gets beat. You can tell by his body language and facial expression.

Anyway....woods is ours. Right now the knicks should show loyalty and offer him a chance to start and brown should make him feel like he is wanted. Woods is a free agent! Woods is going to be hot this off season. If we like him the NBA scouts already have a booklet of scouting reports on him. The knicks have the inside lead on him. They gotta make him feel wanted.

I am not offering an excuse or a reason, just some thoughts:

It could be that Brown is developing some of the young players in a different way. Limit minutes when they aren't doing the right thing, don't put them in when the matchup is overtly one-sided against the Knicks' player, play them when they can succeed in the right way.

Every team in the NBA had a shot at Woods at the beginning of this offseason and I am guessing, for one reason or another, didn't strike an accord with him. That the Knicks gave him a shot for this season is ample reason to believe the Knicks will have the first shot at keeping him long term. And we hope it's at a minimal cost.

If a guy is your guy you put him out there.....if the guy can score the way Woods does....you go to him. Why protect him from a mismatch? Woods is the mismatch. The Knicks have no room to be protecting players....they are the worst team in the league.

On a side note the Bobcats just waived Kareem Rush cuz he wasn't playing the way they felt he should. That is balls......I wish someone in the Knicks organization would grow some and take a stand. Too much bitch talk.

Posted by EnySpree:


If a guy is your guy you put him out there.....if the guy can score the way Woods does....you go to him. Why protect him from a mismatch? Woods is the mismatch. The Knicks have no room to be protecting players....they are the worst team in the league.

Here's the thing Eny: I don't dig what you are saying about "If a guy is your guy you put him out there". What's that mean, and more to the point, what's the underlying point of it? The coaches are here for the betterment of a player and the team. You stick a young guy out there without any willful thought-process other than "he's my guy" and you are doing no favors for your team or that player. Our big case in point is Curry - look at how many bad faults he has because he was just put out on the court. The list of other Curry-like players is long.

Rush is a head case.

This guy has game, but plays awful! His shot is butt ugly also.

He COULD have been solid, but he wasted it.

He got a good opportunity in Charlotte, and was injured, but his shot selection made jamal look conservative.

Speaking of Jamal, In the few games Im watching, Its nice to see hiim go to the basket again. He can Dunk! His overall game is improving.

He at least has shown his appreciation of uncle Isiahs by actually working at his game.

Posted by WOODMANnYk:

Posted by holfresh:

Posted by WOODMANnYk:

then who do you think he gets in starting SF next season for the Knicks??? Hopefully, not the guys i mentioned in the list...


Please no Al HArrington as well, he's soft!!!!

They need a SF that can rebound the ball, decent ball handling skills taking away pressure from the PG and lastly plays defense

[Edited by - WOODMANnYk on 04-01-2006 11:19 AM]

Huh? Harrington is soft?...Harrington does everthing you just describe above....If Harrington played for the Knicks this year, he would lead them in scoring and rebounding and would be our best defensive player....Harrington had 11 boards last night....

Bro, harrington is in his last yr of his contract.. he wants to get PAID!!

If he was that good, larry bird and the pacers wouldn't have traded him..

trust me he's not a good defensive player.. Artest is better than him.. even deng or richie jefferson are better than harrington defensively..

Good players get traded all the time...Artest was playing ahead of him...Artest is the best defensive small forward in the league...Harrington is an upgrade to anyone we have on this roster..What is your point?...Don't trade for a player unless he is the best at his position?

Posted by WOODMANnYk:

He will not be able to fit into Larry's system.. We don't need a scorer @ that position and if you look @ his #'s from the past, they are not that impressive.. Why would you think he was a good player?? he doesn't even play both sides of the court..

LArry likes guys that can rebound the ball in the frontcourt.. AL doesn't fit that criteria

Also for a guy his size @ 6'9, he should be averaging 9 rebounds or more .. lifetime, he's averaging almost 6 which is small for a guy his size..

one moment he shows up, the next he dissappears.. he recently became a starter a yr ago..

once again, these players below are better than him @ that position both ends of the floor..

Lebron, Pierce, Artest, Jefferson, Deng, carmelo, ricky davis, Idgodula, Tayshaun P, Odom, shawn marion, jamison.. that's alot of guys..

Al is another Rashard Lewis.. big size but can't rebound an won't survive larry's system..

Huh? 6.8 rebounds a game from the sml forward spot isn't good?...The only other guys on your list that rebounds better are really power forwards Odom and Marion...Jefferson rebounds the same..but the point is none of those guys are available...I too would love Lebron, Pierce, Jefferson etc...But the knicks can't get them...

Posted by EnySpree:

Harrington just gives off a lot of bad vibes. He is similiar to marbs with his comments at times. He calls himself an all-star calibir player when he has yet to reach that status yet. He wanted out of Indiana so bad just so he can get the pay check he is hoping is there for him this summer.

Now I've seen the dude drop 40pts in Indiana. I've also seen the dude out up big numbers at Atlanta. He doesn't bring anything that the knicks are missing. He is a inside player. A soft inside player at that. He wants to be carmelo Anthony but is not ever gonna hit that level. He is so not worth the money.

Q-dog deserves a real shot at the 3 spot. Jalen is still gonna be around as insurance. It would be a crime if they did not keep woods.

I like Woods as well but there is no way we can go into the season with Woods as your main guy...He just has not shown he can do it on a nightly basis, yet...Jalen is gone...They are trading him for the first team that wants to salary dump....We are bad as it is...there are too many questions with all positions on this team for the Knicks to start Q2 and possibly Fye up front...

Posted by holfresh:

Posted by EnySpree:

Harrington just gives off a lot of bad vibes. He is similiar to marbs with his comments at times. He calls himself an all-star calibir player when he has yet to reach that status yet. He wanted out of Indiana so bad just so he can get the pay check he is hoping is there for him this summer.

Now I've seen the dude drop 40pts in Indiana. I've also seen the dude out up big numbers at Atlanta. He doesn't bring anything that the knicks are missing. He is a inside player. A soft inside player at that. He wants to be carmelo Anthony but is not ever gonna hit that level. He is so not worth the money.

Q-dog deserves a real shot at the 3 spot. Jalen is still gonna be around as insurance. It would be a crime if they did not keep woods.

I like Woods as well but there is no way we can go into the season with Woods as your main guy...He just has not shown he can do it on a nightly basis, yet...Jalen is gone...They are trading him for the first team that wants to salary dump....We are bad as it is...there are too many questions with all positions on this team for the Knicks to start Q2 and possibly Fye up front...

I definately feel that. Id like to see woods start the rest of the year. We gotta see if he can be consistant. The dude is explosive. Would be nice to get our own pierce, rashard Lewis or Harrington without having to over spend. why not woods, you know? Why can't he come in and start next year? I'm rooting for the guy.