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McK1
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3/21/2006  1:33 PM
prior to this season he fostered and echoed every single ssilly notion that Steph made to the media of his worth and stature.

now NY is all engulfed in the Starbury Wars and Isiah hasn't made a peep in support or defense of Stephon.

what up with that
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3/21/2006  1:42 PM
What, no more kisses on the cheek in front of the cameras?

I guess the old axiom still applies: When the going gets tough, Isiah hides like the little b*tch that he is.
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3/21/2006  1:43 PM
he brought in both Marbury & Larry Brown... he can't choose sides in the matter or else he'll look bad & lose credibility w/the other
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3/21/2006  1:55 PM
Posted by TMS:

he brought in both Marbury & Larry Brown... he can't choose sides in the matter or else he'll look bad & lose credibility w/the other

I don't care who brought who in, if a player makes insubordinate remarks about the coach, he has to pay the price. That's just doing his job.
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Posted by islesfan:
Posted by TMS:

he brought in both Marbury & Larry Brown... he can't choose sides in the matter or else he'll look bad & lose credibility w/the other

I don't care who brought who in, if a player makes insubordinate remarks about the coach, he has to pay the price. That's just doing his job.


and when the coach does it to the player....then what?

I agree with the statement in BOLD
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3/21/2006  1:58 PM
I don't care who brought who in, if a player makes insubordinate remarks about the coach, he has to pay the price. That's just doing his job.

It's not insubordination if the remarks are true.
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3/21/2006  2:00 PM
Posted by Swishfm3:
Posted by islesfan:
Posted by TMS:

he brought in both Marbury & Larry Brown... he can't choose sides in the matter or else he'll look bad & lose credibility w/the other

I don't care who brought who in, if a player makes insubordinate remarks about the coach, he has to pay the price. That's just doing his job.


and when the coach does it to the player....then what?

I agree with the statement in BOLD

That's what coaches do. That's what coaches have always done. And it wouldn't have escalated to that point if Marbury was told to shut his hole in the beginning. If Isiah had only had the guts to do his job instead of worrying about how it would look then it never would have gotten to this point.
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3/21/2006  2:01 PM
Posted by JesseDark:
I don't care who brought who in, if a player makes insubordinate remarks about the coach, he has to pay the price. That's just doing his job.

It's not insubordination if the remarks are true.

Uh, yeah it is.
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3/21/2006  2:08 PM
The point is there is no need for a suspension for speaking the truth.
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3/21/2006  2:18 PM
Posted by islesfan:
Posted by Swishfm3:
Posted by islesfan:
Posted by TMS:

he brought in both Marbury & Larry Brown... he can't choose sides in the matter or else he'll look bad & lose credibility w/the other

I don't care who brought who in, if a player makes insubordinate remarks about the coach, he has to pay the price. That's just doing his job.


and when the coach does it to the player....then what?

I agree with the statement in BOLD

That's what coaches do. That's what coaches have always done. And it wouldn't have escalated to that point if Marbury was told to shut his hole in the beginning. If Isiah had only had the guts to do his job instead of worrying about how it would look then it never would have gotten to this point.

really? since when??

I've played sports my whole life...and I've never had a coach belittle me in public.
(except once...I fumbled the ball and my football coach started smacking my helmet)

and in a professional level....I can't recall any coach calling out their players in the media.

Andy Reid didn't even do it to T.O....and he def. had a right too.
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3/21/2006  2:24 PM
Dolan put the organization in the hands of 3 whores - Isiah Marbury Brown - and this is the end result.

[Edited by - McK1 on 03-21-2006 2:25 PM]
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Posted by McK1:

Dolan put the organization in the hands of 3 whores - Isiah Marbury Brown - and this is the end result.

[Edited by - McK1 on 03-21-2006 2:25 PM]

The three wise men! Too funny!

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Posted by Swishfm3:
I've played sports my whole life...and I've never had a coach belittle me in public.
(except once...I fumbled the ball and my football coach started smacking my helmet)

and in a professional level....I can't recall any coach calling out their players in the media.

Andy Reid didn't even do it to T.O....and he def. had a right too.
Parcells has called out TONS of players in public. Everyone from LT to refering to Terry Glen's hamstring as "she's feeling better"
Jimmy Johnson has
Billy Martin has
Ozzie Guillen did numerous times this year before winning the world series
Phil JAckson has used the media in this way
Gruden (Chucky) did sat MeShawn for the year

Thats off the top of my head


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3/21/2006  2:39 PM
Posted by fishmike:
Posted by Swishfm3:
I've played sports my whole life...and I've never had a coach belittle me in public.
(except once...I fumbled the ball and my football coach started smacking my helmet)

and in a professional level....I can't recall any coach calling out their players in the media.

Andy Reid didn't even do it to T.O....and he def. had a right too.
Parcells has called out TONS of players in public. Everyone from LT to refering to Terry Glen's hamstring as "she's feeling better"
Jimmy Johnson has
Billy Martin has
Ozzie Guillen did numerous times this year before winning the world series
Phil JAckson has used the media in this way
Gruden (Chucky) did sat MeShawn for the year

Thats off the top of my head

to young to remember Billy Martin.....I believe Parcells did it.

BUT..no on Ozzie, Gruden, Jimmy....and Phil did it AFTER he left the Lakers so that doesnt count

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3/21/2006  2:43 PM
Posted by Swishfm3:
Posted by islesfan:
Posted by Swishfm3:
Posted by islesfan:
Posted by TMS:

he brought in both Marbury & Larry Brown... he can't choose sides in the matter or else he'll look bad & lose credibility w/the other

I don't care who brought who in, if a player makes insubordinate remarks about the coach, he has to pay the price. That's just doing his job.


and when the coach does it to the player....then what?

I agree with the statement in BOLD

That's what coaches do. That's what coaches have always done. And it wouldn't have escalated to that point if Marbury was told to shut his hole in the beginning. If Isiah had only had the guts to do his job instead of worrying about how it would look then it never would have gotten to this point.

really? since when??

I've played sports my whole life...and I've never had a coach belittle me in public.
(except once...I fumbled the ball and my football coach started smacking my helmet)

and in a professional level....I can't recall any coach calling out their players in the media.

Andy Reid didn't even do it to T.O....and he def. had a right too.

I don't know, ask Bill Parcells for one.
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3/21/2006  2:43 PM
Phil definitely called Kwame Brown a pu$$y this year.
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islesfan
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3/21/2006  2:46 PM
I believe Riley did it with Mason when he was with the Knicks.
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Posted by eViL:

Phil definitely called Kwame Brown a pu$$y this year.


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Posted by fishmike:
Posted by Swishfm3:
I've played sports my whole life...and I've never had a coach belittle me in public.
(except once...I fumbled the ball and my football coach started smacking my helmet)

and in a professional level....I can't recall any coach calling out their players in the media.

Andy Reid didn't even do it to T.O....and he def. had a right too.
Parcells has called out TONS of players in public. Everyone from LT to refering to Terry Glen's hamstring as "she's feeling better"
Jimmy Johnson has
Billy Martin has
Ozzie Guillen did numerous times this year before winning the world series
Phil JAckson has used the media in this way
Gruden (Chucky) did sat MeShawn for the year

Thats off the top of my head


Dick Vermeil called out RB larry Johnson. Now look, LJ was running like a beast last year..

To put larry on the same level of blame as steph and marbs is ridiculous..
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3/21/2006  5:00 PM
Posted by tkf:
Posted by fishmike:
Posted by Swishfm3:
I've played sports my whole life...and I've never had a coach belittle me in public.
(except once...I fumbled the ball and my football coach started smacking my helmet)

and in a professional level....I can't recall any coach calling out their players in the media.

Andy Reid didn't even do it to T.O....and he def. had a right too.
Parcells has called out TONS of players in public. Everyone from LT to refering to Terry Glen's hamstring as "she's feeling better"
Jimmy Johnson has
Billy Martin has
Ozzie Guillen did numerous times this year before winning the world series
Phil JAckson has used the media in this way
Gruden (Chucky) did sat MeShawn for the year

Thats off the top of my head


Dick Vermeil called out RB larry Johnson. Now look, LJ was running like a beast last year..

To put larry on the same level of blame as steph and marbs is ridiculous..

Don't forget Starbury, he deserves his fair share of blame as well.
If it didn’t work in Phoenix with Nash and Stoutamire... it’s just not a winning formula. It’s an entertaining formula, but not a winning one. - Derek Harper talking about D'Antoni's System
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