Posted by nyballer:

If we move Ward, Harrington, and Knight for Penny... I read it on the realgm boards, it worked (i tried it on realgm) and it looks good because ward and knight are expiring and harrington is up in 2 years and is pretty cheap. suns want to get rid of penny and his contract anyway. Then we can try to trade Frank Williams and maybe KT for Nazr Mohammed ... Atlanta (even though they have dickau) is desperate for pg talent and Williams/Dickau would be a good, young duo - different styles of play...Finally, try to sign Shawn KEmp for cheap - if hes a problem just cut him..this gives us:

PG: Penny/Eisley
SG: Houston/Anderson
SF: Spree/Spoon
PF: Dice/Kemp
C: Nazr/Doleac/Kemp

I think thats a pretty good team...thoughts?

I wrote about this a while back ago on another board and everyone shot it down. I think Penny is just playing for the checks now. He is done and from what he said he think he will never regain his old game. I think he is to risky for the Knicks they already are going into the season with Dice who is a risk. To add Penny in the mix then the season may turn out to be a disaster. I still think they need to concentrate on bringing in NVE, Payton or Cassell. But with time going by it seems less and less likely the Knicks will do anything. Look for the Knicks to bring in Travis Best to play the point. That is my worst nightmare.

Bitchin' and Moanin' just ain't my style at all...I'm about yelling and screaming during a game, not much else.

The cap? We're over it so let's 'get over it'...If this were baseball, it wouldn't even come up in conversation, but this is Stern's league...so whatever...

Dunno if I think Penny's 'over the hill...' - Has he been injury prone? Yep. Has he been a whiner? Yep. Do I think he could be more productive than Ward, Eisley and Jax combined? Yep. Better than Van Exel? Nope. Definite must-do? Nope. Worth thinking about before writing it off as nonsense? Yep.

That's my whole two cents on the one-cent man. 'Twas a pleasant diversion-

Cheers-

Injuries are definitely a question, however...The proposed trade only gives up Ward, Harrington, Knight. Ward's knees aren't exactly adamantium, if ya know what I mean...And we're not giving up power players - The way I see it, it's just creating roster spots....But what's Penny's contract like? I have no clue...

For the record, though I'll re-state that the VanEx trade is a better deal. But Crazy eyes leaves in that one. Big Kurty fans will prefer Harrington for Penny, I believe. Or some sort of Starbury/Spree thing...

"The cap? We're over it so let's 'get over it'..."-I know the Knicks are over the cap, but they'll never be under if they continue to trade out expiring contracts for guys that are inked for the next half-decade.

"Dunno if I think Penny's 'over the hill...' - Has he been injury prone? Yep. Has he been a whiner? Yep. Do I think he could be more productive than Ward, Eisley and Jax combined? Yep. Better than Van Exel? Nope. Definite must-do? Nope. Worth thinking about before writing it off as nonsense? Yep."-Ok, I was too harsh with the over the hill and the bitching and moaning. But I don't think he could be more productive than Ward, Eisley, and Jackson combined. He isn't a point guard. He is a 6 foot 7 inch 2guard with handles. That doesn't mean he's a point. Remember a few years ago when the Knicks tried Spree at PG, Houston at SG, and Rice at SF. It was a disaster because Spree isn't a natural PG. Penny can play PG for stretches, maybe he'd be good for 10 minutes a game. But to expect him to distribute the ball to Houston, Sprewell, and McDyess, I just can't forsee it happening. That's where I'm coming from.

The two "risks" you mentioned were trading older players for younger players with potential. Trading for Penny, you're getting an older guy for a bunch of expiring contracts, and hoping he can play out of position. It's not a very calculated risk.

That was supposed to read:

"That was the PART"...