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Killa4luv
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3/15/2006  11:19 PM
It is unbelievable how he is going into this back and forth with players through the media.

He has taken shots at every player on our team and spoken in glowing terms about every player on other teams all season long.

He has bashed, bad-mouthed, and made snide remarks about just about every player on the squad.

This is pretty much the height of unproffesionalism. Then I hear him talking about how he likes players that talk about the team.

Why isn't he communicating with his players like men instead of behind their backs through the media?

I am so sick of this guy and his antics. I blame him more than anyone else for this record. WHy?

Because with this team, and a different game plan, our win total would be double or close to it. There are teams in the league that play zero defense and will be in the playoffs. Defense isn't the only reason we are losing.

Players are demoralized, and unclear of their roles. They don't know if they've made any progress or if he is happy with what theyre doing. They are trying and keep getting bashed and inadvertantly blamed for everything while he pretends to take responsibility. I believe they have mostly given up on him. His "its my fault" mantra is old and tired and he doesnt mean one word of it. If he does mean what he is saying, he should resign, because there is no way another coach couldn't get more out of this team.

Fuck Larry Brown.
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3/15/2006  11:23 PM
I blame him for one reason: he knew that Marbury was here before he took the job. He knew what kind of game he played. He knew his contractual status, and he took the job anyway.

But overall, I blame everyone.
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3/15/2006  11:26 PM
Posted by Rich:

I blame him for one reason: he knew that Marbury was here before he took the job. He knew what kind of game he played. He knew his contractual status, and he took the job anyway.

But overall, I blame everyone.


perhaps this was Isiah's plan. he himself couldn't do the needed deed so he hires the 1 man who could.
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3/15/2006  11:27 PM
I just caught Steph's comments on the news and I agree 100%.
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3/15/2006  11:30 PM
Thats what happens when you have a predominately young roster..

Look, larry done it before the knicks.. he'd done it with detriot, philly, indiana..

These yuong players are shook and can't handle the heavy criticism.. It tells you that @ 65, larry no longer has any patience...

He's better suited coaching a savvy veteran team that's been there before..

hey, most of these players can't handle his system.. It's zeke fault for not getting larry brown typed players..

Great coaches criticizes players via the media.. ex. mile ditka, bill parcells..

look @ nate, you don't hear him bitchin.. all he says is "Cocah tells me i have ot make better decisions on the court or something else..

it doesn't stop him from being the energy guy on the court.

LArry knows what he's doing and will get the kind of players that can survive his system..

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3/15/2006  11:30 PM
Posted by McK1:
Posted by Rich:

I blame him for one reason: he knew that Marbury was here before he took the job. He knew what kind of game he played. He knew his contractual status, and he took the job anyway.

But overall, I blame everyone.


perhaps this was Isiah's plan. he himself couldn't do the needed deed so he hires the 1 man who could.

Interesting, but has this episode made Marbury more tradable or less? My guess is less.
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3/15/2006  11:32 PM
Larry said what needed to be said for a long time.

Its not a good thing, but this team is not listening and playing defense. Losing sucks, but if this is the only way to get thru to some players, then so be it!

Maybe instead of being afraid of marbs, its high time some confronted him!
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3/15/2006  11:32 PM

Yeah, I have no respect for that dude....He always talks about how he leave a team better off than he met it...Ask the owners of these organizations how they feel about Brown...He has to be the most polarizing coach in the NBA right now....
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3/15/2006  11:40 PM
Posted by Rich:
Posted by McK1:
Posted by Rich:

I blame him for one reason: he knew that Marbury was here before he took the job. He knew what kind of game he played. He knew his contractual status, and he took the job anyway.

But overall, I blame everyone.


perhaps this was Isiah's plan. he himself couldn't do the needed deed so he hires the 1 man who could.

Interesting, but has this episode made Marbury more tradable or less? My guess is less.

at this point Steph is a known. If a team is interested in trading for him, this episode neither helps nor hurts. Him not coexisting with Brown was a given by all except the media hating Knick fans.
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3/15/2006  11:42 PM
Posted by holfresh:


Yeah, I have no respect for that dude....He always talks about how he leave a team better off than he met it...Ask the owners of these organizations how they feel about Brown...He has to be the most polarizing coach in the NBA right now....

you funny.. then tell me how it worked with these previous captains??

reggie miller of indiana(confernce finals), iverson of philly,had problems but iverson won MVP and went to NBA finals) billups of detriot(won nba chamionchip and won MVP of finals) but with marbury as captain, the team is 18 - 45 their relationship is disgusting..

[Edited by - woodmannyk on 03-15-2006 11:46 PM]
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3/15/2006  11:44 PM
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[Edited by - woodmannyk on 03-15-2006 11:44 PM]
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3/15/2006  11:57 PM
Posted by WOODMANnYk:
Posted by holfresh:


Yeah, I have no respect for that dude....He always talks about how he leave a team better off than he met it...Ask the owners of these organizations how they feel about Brown...He has to be the most polarizing coach in the NBA right now....

you funny.. then tell me how it worked with these previous captains??

reggie miller of indiana(confernce finals), iverson of philly,had problems but iverson won MVP and went to NBA finals) billups of detriot(won nba chamionchip and won MVP of finals) but with marbury as captain, the team is 18 - 45 their relationship is disgusting..

[Edited by - woodmannyk on 03-15-2006 11:46 PM]



you are right..I should havd known...it's Marbury's fault...

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3/15/2006  11:59 PM
Its all politics with LB and its so blatant.
It just seems like he is directing the blame at Stephon by stating his resume and then washing his hands by saying the losing is all the coach's fault.
If LB feels talking about Teams makes him happy...well the Blame lies on the WHOLE TEAM, ownership and management included.

Sick of all the drama
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3/16/2006  12:01 AM
er, didn't Marbury start this whole (latest) blowup between him and Larry? "I gotta be Starbury"... Implying that what Larry has put forward was not working?
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3/16/2006  12:02 AM
Posted by WOODMANnYk:
Posted by holfresh:


Yeah, I have no respect for that dude....He always talks about how he leave a team better off than he met it...Ask the owners of these organizations how they feel about Brown...He has to be the most polarizing coach in the NBA right now....

you funny.. then tell me how it worked with these previous captains??

reggie miller of indiana(confernce finals), iverson of philly,had problems but iverson won MVP and went to NBA finals) billups of detriot(won nba chamionchip and won MVP of finals) but with marbury as captain, the team is 18 - 45 their relationship is disgusting..

[Edited by - woodmannyk on 03-15-2006 11:46 PM]

That is a good point buttt. This is LB's 1st year here and LB didn't get all of those player mentioned awards in their first year. and i know someone is going to make the point of billups getting it in his 1st year but that team that LB had was not LB's team. that was ricks C's team. and then there will be an arguement about LB making Billups better but that is not true either. Flip saunders should have the credit for that in minn. That is when billups blew up. Just wanted to get some facts out there. not really attaching the poster of this statement.
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3/16/2006  12:13 AM
While were on the point of LB i read in his statemnet about look at his track record. well his track record is not that great. I don't think he has ever turned a terrible team into a great team. the teams he did good with were already decent but he did put philly over the hump. I was also wondering about the AI always played to win injuries or healthy. now is he saying that steph's shoulder injury is a reason for the bad record we have. because i think it was a legit injury why steph was out.
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3/16/2006  12:14 AM
Posted by Armondaone:
Posted by WOODMANnYk:
Posted by holfresh:


Yeah, I have no respect for that dude....He always talks about how he leave a team better off than he met it...Ask the owners of these organizations how they feel about Brown...He has to be the most polarizing coach in the NBA right now....

you funny.. then tell me how it worked with these previous captains??

reggie miller of indiana(confernce finals), iverson of philly,had problems but iverson won MVP and went to NBA finals) billups of detriot(won nba chamionchip and won MVP of finals) but with marbury as captain, the team is 18 - 45 their relationship is disgusting..

[Edited by - woodmannyk on 03-15-2006 11:46 PM]

That is a good point buttt. This is LB's 1st year here and LB didn't get all of those player mentioned awards in their first year. and i know someone is going to make the point of billups getting it in his 1st year but that team that LB had was not LB's team. that was ricks C's team. and then there will be an arguement about LB making Billups better but that is not true either. Flip saunders should have the credit for that in minn. That is when billups blew up. Just wanted to get some facts out there. not really attaching the poster of this statement.



Bro, you are not putting out any facts that people don't know...They just choose to ignore it...
Everyone knows that is not LB's team in Detroit...They were a 50 win team 2 yrs prior be the Brown the Bandit got there..Weed put them over the top after coming over from Atlanta...Now he is on his soapbox about look at my career and look at his......Amazing this dude.....Detroit will win it the next 2 years and I'm rooting for them now.....


He's now bragging about taking a team to the Finals with Haywood Workman as the point guard...That dude is sitting on his couch thinking, damn, why did coach have to go there...




[Edited by - holfresh on 03-16-2006 12:15 AM]

[Edited by - holfresh on 03-16-2006 12:19 AM]
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3/16/2006  12:17 AM
Posted by Armondaone:
Posted by WOODMANnYk:
Posted by holfresh:


Yeah, I have no respect for that dude....He always talks about how he leave a team better off than he met it...Ask the owners of these organizations how they feel about Brown...He has to be the most polarizing coach in the NBA right now....

you funny.. then tell me how it worked with these previous captains??

reggie miller of indiana(confernce finals), iverson of philly,had problems but iverson won MVP and went to NBA finals) billups of detriot(won nba chamionchip and won MVP of finals) but with marbury as captain, the team is 18 - 45 their relationship is disgusting..

[Edited by - woodmannyk on 03-15-2006 11:46 PM]

That is a good point buttt. This is LB's 1st year here and LB didn't get all of those player mentioned awards in their first year. and i know someone is going to make the point of billups getting it in his 1st year but that team that LB had was not LB's team. that was ricks C's team. and then there will be an arguement about LB making Billups better but that is not true either. Flip saunders should have the credit for that in minn. That is when billups blew up. Just wanted to get some facts out there. not really attaching the poster of this statement.
my point was about leadership... something marbury lacks and will never accomplished in this stage of his career.

also, if it was rick carlisle's team then why didn't he take them to a championship and larry brown did??

also, flip saunders gets the credit for making billups a lethal,dangerous offensive player but larry helped him become a true leader and that's not what marbury is... Starburied never possessed leadership skills and will never lead by example..
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3/16/2006  12:20 AM
Posted by Armondaone:

While were on the point of LB i read in his statemnet about look at his track record. well his track record is not that great. I don't think he has ever turned a terrible team into a great team. the teams he did good with were already decent but he did put philly over the hump. I was also wondering about the AI always played to win injuries or healthy. now is he saying that steph's shoulder injury is a reason for the bad record we have. because i think it was a legit injury why steph was out.

eViL, can you post your post and clear up Larry's record. Someone missed it.
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3/16/2006  12:21 AM
i give larry the benefit of the doubt. he did win games on his previous coaching gigs. marbury's old teams got better when he left. we need to settle this at the end of the season. get coach what he wants
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