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If you had to do the Larry Brown signing again, would you do it..


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holfresh
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If you had to do the Larry Brown signing again, would you do it...
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JohnWallace44
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3/13/2006  9:52 PM
This is fun. Can we go down the line and see if anyone on the Knicks gets better than 50% on this poll?

Maybe Lee would get a favorable rating, but then... I'd rather have Blatche still

Alan Hahn: Nate Robinson has been on a ridonkulous scoring tear lately (remember when he couldn't hit Jerome James with a Big Mac in early January?)
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Marv
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3/13/2006  10:07 PM
Big big no from me.

Would love to see what this squad would have done with an uptempo coach who would have given the youngs consistent minutes.

As in - exactly what Larry did for 6 games - which has since come to be known as our "winning streak."
Nalod
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3/13/2006  10:21 PM

Hindsight 20-20 polls offer as much clarity to the future as a Miss cleo call.

Lets try some.

Should Reggie Lewis stopped playing ball?

Should we traded for the no. 1 pick in 1986 with the Celtics?

Would you trade for Dice again or take Amare with the pick?

Should Chamberlin have appeased Hitler in 39'?

Should I have sold my Tech portfolio in march of 2000?

Should the pistons drafted Darko or Damon?

Should Riles stuck with 1-18 Starks?

Should I have slept with Jessica Alba when she was drunk?
Rich
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3/13/2006  10:39 PM
No, he's as flexible as wet Kleenex.
SlimPack
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3/13/2006  10:47 PM
I dont see the advantage in signing larry brown, if what bippity says is true and that it is not the coaches job to motivate players, than I dont see any reason to hire him over any other coach, since apparently theres only so much that can be done with our roster. so uh.... no.
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3/13/2006  10:47 PM
Posted by Nalod:


Hindsight 20-20 polls offer as much clarity to the future as a Miss cleo call.

Lets try some.

Should Reggie Lewis stopped playing ball?

Should we traded for the no. 1 pick in 1986 with the Celtics?

Would you trade for Dice again or take Amare with the pick?

Should Chamberlin have appeased Hitler in 39'?

Should I have sold my Tech portfolio in march of 2000?

Should the pistons drafted Darko or Damon?

Should Riles stuck with 1-18 Starks?

Should I have slept with Jessica Alba when she was drunk?

Should I have wasted several months of my life watching truly bad basketball hoping the Knicks would improve?
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Bonn1997
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3/13/2006  10:58 PM
Posted by Rich:

No, he's as flexible as wet Kleenex.
He's as flexible as a brick wall. I've heard people say they don't want a GM who believes it's in our long-term interests to give Jerome James a $29 mil contract. I agree but I'd add I don't want a coach whose judgment leads him to believe it's in the team's long-term interests to play Malik and Mo Taylor and give DNP-CDs for most of the season to David Lee, Jackie Butler, and Q Woods, and Nate Robinson and to sit Frye for half of each game.

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3/14/2006  12:18 AM
who could've known that the generation gap between the players and the coach would be the size of the grand canyon? lb is a good coach. but he was not the right fit for this team. and him not being the right fit has culminated into 17 wins on the season with a month to go.
Who's shooting too much now?
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3/14/2006  12:32 AM
no no no. i like LB, but there has never been a worse fit for a young team than him. it would have been better to let herb coach for a while, and find the right coach later. Stan van gundy or rick adelman would have been perfect here.
Bonn1997
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3/14/2006  12:39 AM
10 Yes votes? Did Bip vote ten times?
Allanfan20
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3/14/2006  12:46 AM
Allanfan20 = # 11. Guarantee every other coach would be giving the young guys small minutes. Channing hasn't been good lately, and David Lee showed in the second half today why he's not getting consistent minutes. Nate Robinson has the poorest judgement in the NBA right now.
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3/14/2006  1:06 AM
Frye hasn't been good because Larry hasn't been playing him...Larry has single handedly took him out of the ROY race...Paul would have won..But it would have been nice to see our future get a little love...

[Edited by - holfresh on 03-14-2006 01:07 AM]

[Edited by - holfresh on 03-14-2006 01:07 AM]
djsunyc
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3/14/2006  1:10 AM
Posted by holfresh:

Frye hasn't been good because Larry hasn't been playing him...Larry has single handedly took him out of the ROY race...Paul would have won..But it would have been nice to see our future get a little love...

[Edited by - holfresh on 03-14-2006 01:07 AM]

[Edited by - holfresh on 03-14-2006 01:07 AM]

i'm assuming it had nothing to do with teams adjusting to frye's jumpshooting and not leaving him open. oh, and combine that with him being probably the 2nd biggest defensive liablity on the team, and being more and more exposed on the defensive end as the season went on, probably played a part in the reduced playing time.

eddy curry started right away, and played minutes his entire career. 5 years late and he's still fundamentally flawed. taking away frye's minutes early will only help him down the road. and if he doesn't respond, then chances are he's not the right guy to help build a championship team anyway.
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3/14/2006  1:19 AM
Frye will be fine...Not sure what it is maybe tired legs causing him not to hit his shots...but you are right, his game did tail off a bit...He is a 20 and 10 guy in this league tho...He's a rook, before this season he had no clue what it took to play 82 games in one season..The offseason will be huge for him...I think it will help his conditioning as well as Curry and Lee...
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3/14/2006  1:25 AM
Posted by djsunyc:
Posted by holfresh:

Frye hasn't been good because Larry hasn't been playing him...Larry has single handedly took him out of the ROY race...Paul would have won..But it would have been nice to see our future get a little love...

[Edited by - holfresh on 03-14-2006 01:07 AM]

[Edited by - holfresh on 03-14-2006 01:07 AM]

i'm assuming it had nothing to do with teams adjusting to frye's jumpshooting and not leaving him open. oh, and combine that with him being probably the 2nd biggest defensive liablity on the team, and being more and more exposed on the defensive end as the season went on, probably played a part in the reduced playing time.

eddy curry started right away, and played minutes his entire career. 5 years late and he's still fundamentally flawed. taking away frye's minutes early will only help him down the road. and if he doesn't respond, then chances are he's not the right guy to help build a championship team anyway.

That's a bunch of garbage! Frye doesn't need that kind of motivation. He's already highly motivated to do everything he can to win. He's not gonna learn much from not playing. There's no excuse for LB to have not played Frye and Lee or Butler, Woods and Nate. Look how much good it did us to play the vets. This is one of the worst coaching jobs i've ever seen. He's a great coach but he laid a HUGE egg this year. His ego has been so inflated by the Title, that he has lost all sense of reason when it comes to coaching.

His stubborn insistence on flipping the lineups and rotations. Playing guys and not playing guys for seemingly no good reason. Chirping to the media about everything under the sun that he feels about his players, which i'm sure did wonders to make him respected and loved by his players. You want a coach that players will run thru a wall for and that isn't LB. He could get away with it in Detroit, but here he needed to be a little more understanding and open to different things. Like playing the talented young kids as much as possible so they can learn and be more ready for next year. This season was really about growth, cuz we weren't going to win anything anyway.
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3/14/2006  4:27 AM
at this point, I still feel the goal is to rebuild, and this year is a wash...LB sets us up for the future.
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3/14/2006  7:44 AM
You know I remember Lenny had them playing some exciting ball and scoring a lot of points. They were 16-13 and up until that point had the easiest schedule in the NBA. Then the lack of defense every night just got worse and worse. If you dont guard you lose. Marbury looked good last night, on offense. Who did he guard? Because Boykins and Miller were doing anything the wanted.
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3/14/2006  7:58 AM
Posted by djsunyc:
Posted by holfresh:

Frye hasn't been good because Larry hasn't been playing him...Larry has single handedly took him out of the ROY race...Paul would have won..But it would have been nice to see our future get a little love...

[Edited by - holfresh on 03-14-2006 01:07 AM]

[Edited by - holfresh on 03-14-2006 01:07 AM]

i'm assuming it had nothing to do with teams adjusting to frye's jumpshooting and not leaving him open. oh, and combine that with him being probably the 2nd biggest defensive liablity on the team, and being more and more exposed on the defensive end as the season went on, probably played a part in the reduced playing time.

eddy curry started right away, and played minutes his entire career. 5 years late and he's still fundamentally flawed. taking away frye's minutes early will only help him down the road. and if he doesn't respond, then chances are he's not the right guy to help build a championship team anyway.

Eddy is not motivated and doesn't play hard consistently, whereas Frye is motivated and plays hard consistently. If anything, Larry's got them both reversed. Eddy is the one whose playing time, including whether he starts, should be based upon his effort, whereas Frye is the consistent hardworker who should be given consistent playing time that matches his consistent effort
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3/14/2006  9:21 AM
Frye was great earlier in the year and EARNED his place in the starting lineup, then the whimsical Barry Lrown took him out of the lineup. Then he couldn't even get into the game, obviously his play suffered. We have the best crop of rookies in years and this moron has totally obliterated their confidence. Great way to coach.

By the way a resounding NO!!!!!!!

[Edited by - buddapaw on 03-14-2006 09:31 AM]

[Edited by - buddapaw on 03-14-2006 09:36 AM]
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3/14/2006  9:26 AM
This is the rebuild year! 17 wins!


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If you had to do the Larry Brown signing again, would you do it..

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