Posted by Rich:

Posted by tkf:

why is it when people want to compare talent, everyone seems to bring up "payroll" that is becomming so tiring, either you believe the talent is better or not, damn the payroll for a minute. Kobe makes 3 times as much as lebron, does that make Lebron better? by a landslide?

hearing payroll come up everytime we compare players is just as tiring as those old "knock, Knock" Jokes...

Value doesn't matter? For real? Perhaps not to the Knicks, the dumping ground for bad contracts, but it matters to every sentient GM and owner.

What's tiring is that the Knicks keep adding payroll which makes it harder to acquire talent, and virtually every veteran is overpaid.

btw, The Kobe/LeBron comparison is irrelevant because their reflective contracts reflects the way the CBA structures salaries based on seniority.

Posted by fishmike:

Posted by Rich:

Posted by tkf:

why is it when people want to compare talent, everyone seems to bring up "payroll" that is becomming so tiring, either you believe the talent is better or not, damn the payroll for a minute. Kobe makes 3 times as much as lebron, does that make Lebron better? by a landslide?

hearing payroll come up everytime we compare players is just as tiring as those old "knock, Knock" Jokes...

Value doesn't matter? For real? Perhaps not to the Knicks, the dumping ground for bad contracts, but it matters to every sentient GM and owner.

What's tiring is that the Knicks keep adding payroll which makes it harder to acquire talent, and virtually every veteran is overpaid.

btw, The Kobe/LeBron comparison is irrelevant because their reflective contracts reflects the way the CBA structures salaries based on seniority.

sorry TFK, I have to side with Rich on this one. Look no further than these comments from our starting PG:
"So what do I do now, as far as the way I play?" Marbury said in the interview. "I go back to playing like Stephon Marbury, aka 'Starbury.' I haven't been 'Starbury' this year. I've been some other dude this year ... When you watch the games, that's not Stephon Marbury."

"If this was my contract year and I went to any organization, based on how I played this year, and asked for the max, tell me what they would tell me," .Marbury said in the interview. "They'd say, 'That ain't happening.' "

Now if Marbury made the kind of money Billups did we could move him in a heart beat, but his contract means any team that takes him on is building their whole roster/salary structure around Marbury.

Not gonna happen. Same applies for the rest of our "stars"

fish, I am not arguing that point, I despise what is going on now with steph, but when someone ask me which personell I rather have, I rather from a talent standpoint have the knicks talent. Now if someone asked me which team was in a better situation, I would say the bobcats and it is not because of talent. This is why I asked, is Lebron a better pick than Kobe by a landslide because he makes 1/3 of kobes salary? I am responding to the question of personnel, meaning all things being equal, who would you rather have? I mean if I use Rich's reasoning, I rather have no players and start from scratch over what the bobcats have, Draft a high pick and sign guys like Al Harrington in the off season? does that mean no personell is better than what the bobcats have now?

Posted by BRIGGS:


Okafor is always injured


when? this is the first year he ever missed a material amount of time. he was ROY last year won an nCAA championship the yera prior and 2 defensive player of the year awards.

how many games did MJ play his second year?

Posted by Rich:

Posted by tkf:

why is it when people want to compare talent, everyone seems to bring up "payroll" that is becomming so tiring, either you believe the talent is better or not, damn the payroll for a minute. Kobe makes 3 times as much as lebron, does that make Lebron better? by a landslide?

hearing payroll come up everytime we compare players is just as tiring as those old "knock, Knock" Jokes...

Value doesn't matter? For real? Perhaps not to the Knicks, the dumping ground for bad contracts, but it matters to every sentient GM and owner.

What's tiring is that the Knicks keep adding payroll which makes it harder to acquire talent, and virtually every veteran is overpaid.

btw, The Kobe/LeBron comparison is irrelevant because their reflective contracts reflects the way the CBA structures salaries based on seniority.

knock knock

who's there?

jerome james