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LarryBird
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3/6/2006  1:28 PM
I guess Frederick Weis would have to get the nod simply because he never even played for the team, though he wasn't a high first-round draft pick.

Kenny "Sky" Walker was a great player for the University of Kentucky and was drafted in the top 10 -- eighth maybe -- back in the eighties and his game just didn't translate from college to the pros. Just an interior player in college who couldn't get away with playing in the low post in the pros.

There was another guy drafted in '79 high in the first round -- top 10 -- named Larry Demic out of the University of Arizona. He completely bombed. I don't know what his problem was. That proved to be a fruitful draft for the Knicks as they picked up Bill Cartwright and Sly Williams, who is currenly in the pokey in Schnectady.

And going way back -- the 1970s -- the Knicks drafted Eugene Short out of I believe Jackson State. He never did much, though his brother, Purvis, had a good career with Golden State.

And in more recent times, Frank Williams was a bust, after being Big 10 Player of the Year. I remember him a rookie looking like a deer in the headlights. Seemed to lack confidence.
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3/6/2006  2:13 PM
Do you recall in the late 70s the Knicks had the rookies, not sure if they were all first rounders are not. Two of them were Toby Knight and Glenn Gondrizik for the life of me I can't remember the third.
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3/6/2006  2:51 PM
I don't think either Knight or Gondrezick were first rounders. It wasn't Jesse Dark was it? There was Eugene Short. There was Mel Davis, a St. Johns stud who was an NBA bust. Wasn't he a Knick? I think he was another one of the Knicks forgettable first round picks. Knight I believe went to Notre Dame and Gondrezick was on my all-time favorite college team, the Runnin' Rebels of Nevada Las Vegas. Gondrezick was on the '76-'77 team that played in the final four.

The Knicks backcourt back in those dark days was Michael Ray Richardson & Ray Williams, kind of like Steve Francis & Stephon Marbury today. Both of those guys were first rounders, but neither could be considered the Knicks' worst pick.

The Knicks had Reggie Carter back then. He was another St. Johns guy who had a journeyman NBA career. Carter wasn't a first rounder, though.
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3/6/2006  4:05 PM
Dontae Jones, the guy that was in the class with John Wallace and Walter mccarthy. Now John Wallace could make a case for himself as worst draft pick cuz he'd rather smoke weed and try to rap then be a basketball player.....well this dontae Jones guy had a good college career and made himself a first rounder but the dude was too into the streets. Last I heard dude was involved in everything from shootings, drug trafficing, all that. Wtf?
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3/6/2006  4:16 PM
Jerrod Mustaf. Stiff personafied.
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3/6/2006  4:33 PM
Dontae Jones, the guy that was in the class with John Wallace and Walter mccarthy. Now John Wallace could make a case for himself as worst draft pick cuz he'd rather smoke weed and try to rap then be a basketball player.....well this dontae Jones guy had a good college career and made himself a first rounder but the dude was too into the streets. Last I heard dude was involved in everything from shootings, drug trafficing, all that. Wtf?
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3/6/2006  4:35 PM
This guy wouldn't be considered the worst, but since I'm going down memory lane, how about Lonnie Shelton. He was guy with a wide body kinda like Sweetney only more skilled.

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3/6/2006  5:45 PM
Nene Hilario... double whammy, because we not only missed out on Amare Stoudamire, but we also traded Nene away along w/Camby for Antonio McGimp.
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3/6/2006  8:05 PM
Wiess is clearly #1 but Kenny Walker is pretty close. Imagine we had drafted Ron Harper, Dennis Rodman or Mark Price or even John Salley, Dell Curry or Scott Skiles to pair with Ewing in his prime?

To be fair, not many of the players in the 1986 draft had long successful careers, and in many ways that draft seemed almost cursed, with guys like Lenny Bias and Roy Tarpley in it, and injury prone guys like Brad Daugherty, Price & Walker.
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3/6/2006  8:18 PM
JesseDark - 6'9 Lonnie Shelton was a baller

You obviously never watched him play for the Sonics

His forced loss, in the Geoge McGinnis tampering penalty, set the Knicks franchise back a few years

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[Edited by - MisterEarl on 03-06-2006 8:19 PM]
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3/6/2006  8:28 PM
Posted by NYKBocker:

Jerrod Mustaf. Stiff personafied.

oooof jerod mustaff and dontae jones were punks on the caliber of chris washburn. jerod got away with shooting someone in the head.

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3/6/2006  8:42 PM
JesseDark - 6'9 Lonnie Shelton was a baller
You obviously never watched him play for the Sonics

His forced loss, in the Geoge McGinnis tampering penalty, set the Knicks franchise back a few years

better do some homework
I said he wasn't the worst. Read what I wrote.
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3/6/2006  9:36 PM
Considering he was picked 5th, Kenny Walker was awful.
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3/6/2006  10:35 PM
Walker had potential. Those knees, those knees. But Mustaff, I still believe that scouting team had to be smoking the funny tobacco. I think Freddy is right up there but I will also throw in Harvey in 2000. I still don't even understand that move at all, to this day. Strickland, man there was a time where Knicks just threw away picks like it was monopoly money.
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3/6/2006  10:59 PM
Potential to do what? Dunk? He played with his back to the basket in college, and is was obvious that he couldn't shoot at all from the outside, yet the Knicks passed on Ron Harper.

[Edited by - Rich on 03-06-2006 10:59 PM]
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3/6/2006  11:01 PM
You remember Sky Walker in college tho? He was so spectacular that I didn't think it was a bad move to go for him. He just couldn't get away with his college game in the pros and never developed the handle or outside shot.
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3/6/2006  11:05 PM
Yeah, he was great in college.
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3/6/2006  11:07 PM
kenny walker average 10 rebs a game his rookie year wearing #34.
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3/6/2006  11:20 PM
So what? Their record was 24-58. They needed offense from the SF position, and he was ill suited to provide it.

btw, Remember I provided the caveat that he was drafted 5th. The opportunity costs of drafting him instead of Harper were huge.

[Edited by - Rich on 03-06-2006 11:25 PM]
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3/7/2006  1:12 PM
I guess there were some off-court issues with Jones. I remember him in the NC2A tourney where his Mississippi State team came out of nowhere to make the Final Four. He teamed with another NBA underachiever, Eric Dampier, on that team. Jones was a terrific athlete and I thought he would be a player. Not much between the ears I guess.

And Mustaff was a guy who just never developed. Again some off court issues. He just never did anything. Came out of Maryland after his sophomore year and was drafted based on potential rather than performance. I never did understand what happened to him, but he was involved in that aforementioned shooting in Phoenix after the Knicks unloaded him.

And I haven't seen another Knicks' first-rounder mentioned and that would be John Thomas, out of the University of Minnesota. He was picked at the bottom of the first round and was not much more than a role player in college (Bobby Jackson was U. of M's best player) and I was actually surprised when he was drafted so high. I don't even think he played for the Knicks; he was traded right away and was never more than a journeyman.

I thought John Wallace was going to be a player when he led his otherwise mediocre University of Syracuse team to the NC2A final game against Kentucky. I thought he would be a star, but he never developed. In fact, I thought Wallace would have been drafted hired than he ended up going. They said he couldn't guard a tree.
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