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djsunyc
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3/5/2006  2:37 PM
as a pf, defensively, so far, it looks like frye doesn't have the quickness to keep up with the faster pf's in the league. and when you look at how the league is changing, the froncourt is becoming more and more athletic, especially the PF spot. frye has somewhat of a lead foot. he's just a tad slow to react.

can quickness and reaction speed be learned to guard pf's or would it be wiser for him to bulk up some more to play the center spot, where he could be one of the quicker centers in the league?
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3/5/2006  2:43 PM
It's funny, i'm trying to put him at the 3 and you want to put him at the 5.

Isiah said he was drating and trading for players that could play multiple positions, so why not try anything? I think you have to pick and choose the opposing centers you do this with.
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3/5/2006  2:47 PM
yeah, i know marv. you want him like rashard.

i don't see how that works unless we bring in dalembert and ben wallace to play the 4 & 5. at least not with lb coaching here where it's defense first.
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3/5/2006  2:51 PM
Posted by djsunyc:

as a pf, defensively, so far, it looks like frye doesn't have the quickness to keep up with the faster pf's in the league. and when you look at how the league is changing, the froncourt is becoming more and more athletic, especially the PF spot. frye has somewhat of a lead foot. he's just a tad slow to react.

can quickness and reaction speed be learned to guard pf's or would it be wiser for him to bulk up some more to play the center spot, where he could be one of the quicker centers in the league?


I've been thinking about this for the past couple of days, in fact I suggested (in one of my threads that was stomped-out and kicked to the curb of page 2 in record time) that if the Knicks want to go to a quicker front line, Frye would be ideal to play Center (kind of like Brad Miller, but quicker.)

Other than Shaq, Ming and Big Z, there aren't that many post players that Frye couldn't gaurd (you don't think Frye could gaurd Kritic?)

The leauge has cvhanged with the no hand checking rule, and this requires a quicker more athletic front line that can help defensively, and block shots (or change them) Curry and Frye together make for 2 slow footed help defenders when the perimeter breaks down.



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3/5/2006  5:34 PM
Frye at the three works for me

6'11 Curry

6'10 Josh Boone

Frye 6'11

6'4 Mike Gansey or 6'6 Quentin Richardson

6/2 Stephon Marbury

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3/5/2006  5:38 PM
Posted by Marv:



Isiah said he was drating and trading for players that could play multiple positions,

and now in a more structured system, alot of these guys look positionless.
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3/5/2006  6:02 PM
Frye can prolly strengthen his base enough to play 5
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3/5/2006  6:05 PM
frye at the three gets absolutely burned by 80% of the small forwards out there. He'd never be able to stay in front of Tmac, Ginobili, Marion, etc. If he can bulk up a little bit and get a stronger base he could be better at post defense, but I agree that we would be better off with a very good defensive center to play alongisde him.
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3/5/2006  6:10 PM
he could deff gaurd centers if he bulks up a tad besides maybe shaq and ming and big z like bigbeast said
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3/5/2006  6:24 PM
Maybe if he juiced first.
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3/5/2006  7:12 PM
I think Frye is a more natural center and a is a better fit with guards like Marbury and Francis at the center position, where he doesn't clog the lane and can play pick and pop. I actually would love to see him play the high post.
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3/5/2006  8:11 PM
Remember the game, back in the day, when Camby stepped out and defended McGrady ?

Frye can learn the three and already has the range on his shot to stretch defenses.

C'mon people, work WITH me
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djsunyc
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3/5/2006  8:14 PM
earl - do you see that in frye?

it just seems like his reaction time is just a bit off. i don't think he has anywhere near the quickness or athleticism of camby. he can learn the three and probably dominate on the offensive end. but as long as larry's here, when it's all about defense, i don't see it happening.
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3/5/2006  9:15 PM
Posted by misterearl:

Remember the game, back in the day, when Camby stepped out and defended McGrady ?

Frye can learn the three and already has the range on his shot to stretch defenses.

C'mon people, work WITH me

I don't like any of the Camby-Frye comparisons, because Camby is ten times the athlete Frye is. Frye will never be as quick and agile as Camby, and that's why Frye is having trouble guarding quick power forwards now, and that's why he probably can't guard small forwards who are quicker by nature.

[Edited by - nyballer on 03-05-2006 9:16 PM]
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3/5/2006  9:45 PM
djsunyc - comparing players is an imperfect science. I wasn't making a Camby comparison as much as recognizing the upside of a 6'11 player with some perimeter skills. Frye has the gane of the fashionable Euro players who come into the league with refined oevrall technique.

Nothing flashy. Just fundamentally sound.

Camby played some point guard in high school and that, combined with his hops (damn I screamed when he dunked on Mutombo in '99 with about 10,00 other Knicks fans iin the Georgia Dome) made him fun.

Frye's bloodlines and work ethic will make him a better player as the years go by. He will NOT rest until he meets the standards he has set for himself.

Frye is the most intelligent player to come out in last years, or this years, draft.

That counts for plenty.

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3/5/2006  9:47 PM
Posted by misterearl:



Frye is the most intelligent player to come out in last years, or this years, draft.


do you have some kind of measure for this statement?

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3/5/2006  10:02 PM
Frye is the most intelligent player to come out in last years, or this years, draft.

That counts for plenty.

Smarter than Chris Paul?

oohah

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3/5/2006  10:07 PM
if NY chooses to build around Frye at center,

do we trade Curry?

what type of four to pair him with?

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3/5/2006  10:25 PM
FRYE CAN"T PLAY THE 3.. HE HAS NO BALL HANDLING SKILLS>>>

USUALLY SOMEONE @ THE 3 CAN BRING THE BALL DOWM>

EX.. Odom, ARTEST, MCGRady,LEBRON, PIERCE,Rashard Lewis, JEfferson

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3/5/2006  10:40 PM
Frye is a PF, when he fills out he will be a force down low because he has such good hands. He can already do the Rasheed thing from long range. He needs to get stronger, thats all. Everything else is there.
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