Knicks playing well, hitting shots, driving, and we get no calls when marbs or francis drives especially in the last two minutes of the game they got nothing, tyson chandler was just jumping and landing on guys, no call, yet the bulls got into the penalty in the 4th after just 5 minutes and none of the fouls were on shot attempts!!!!! Pure BS.. I can see why some of the guys just give up, I am not condoning it, but I can understand...

Refs control the outcome of the game, bulls should not have even had a chance to be in the game, up 8, we had two drives where marbs was hammered, no call, yet they go down and whistle us for touch fouls. I want the refs to be held more accountable... they get away with a lot of bad shyt and it seems to be OK... bullcrap!!!

[Edited by - tkf on 03-03-2006 10:14 PM]

i see improvement
but come on, don't give me the ref crp

bg and hinrich deserve a lot of credit and the bulls deserved the win

they made touch plays while we fumbled and bumbled

Briggs: we got touch fouls all game, while in crunch time, marbs got killed going to the hoop and got squat, that is criminal to me, and it happens often in this league... can you justify, a touch foul on a pick and roll play three straight posessions yet not call all the contact steph gets?

Posted by OldFan:

Posted by tkf:

Briggs: we got touch fouls all game, while in crunch time, marbs got killed going to the hoop and got squat, that is criminal to me, and it happens often in this league... can you justify, a touch foul on a pick and roll play three straight posessions yet not call all the contact steph gets?

Yep it's a conspiracy the league doesn't want a winning team in their biggest market.

old fan, clear the cobwebbs out of your head, no on is talking conspiracy, this is league wide, the NBA refs are the worst and when you are a bad team, the last thing you need is bad officiating....

tkf with his ref whining again....


PLAY THE F!CKIN GAME AND SHUTUP.

That's how it should be...


Let Larry worry about the refereeing...


[Edited by - bobs3304 on 03-04-2006 02:55 AM]

Posted by gunsnewing:

funny how people laughed at Minnesote accepting Chicago deal for Garnett which included Gordon. I mean they much rather have Marbury and his $22mm contract because he is so good. I mean the guy averages 20 & 8 for his career!

dude, you're still not getting the point... it's about where KG wants to play, not what MIN will accept in return for him... if he doesn't want to leave MIN, they're not going to trade him... & if he asks out, CHI isn't a place where he'll want to go knowing that it'll be him & a bunch of young kids left over after they make the deal... let's not beat this into the ground... KG isn't going to CHI, you can bet on that... whether or not he comes to NY is a stretch too, but that's what Isiah's betting on... he's gambling w/multi-million dollar contracts... he better not crap out.

Posted by TMS:

tkf, i also agree that the Knicks have been getting fcked up the butt on some of these calls lately... i guess that's what happens when teams are losing so consistently...

I don't know if it's losing or anti-NY reffing. I remember the same thing in the 90s.

Posted by TMS:

tkf, i also agree that the Knicks have been getting fcked up the butt on some of these calls lately... i guess that's what happens when teams are losing so consistently... it has to do w/alot of factors, including the way the players are looking to refs to make calls & giving up on plays instead of playing through it & looking to force the action in their own favor... it's gotta be frustrating for Marbs & Curry not to be getting calls, no doubt, but they have to play through it & stop whining to the refs.

TMS thanks for atleast acknowledging that, most seem to say the knicks suck so therefore the refs are fine. To me when I see steph get a call 30 feet from the basket for handchecking gordon who was not making a offensive move, and then marbs drives to the basket, gets contact and no call, to me that compromises the integrity of the game. It is a joke..

Posted by TMS:

Posted by Bonn1997:

Posted by TMS:

tkf, i also agree that the Knicks have been getting fcked up the butt on some of these calls lately... i guess that's what happens when teams are losing so consistently...

I don't know if it's losing or anti-NY reffing. I remember the same thing in the 90s.

Riley's 90's teams had a reputation around the league for playing rough, & sometimes maybe dirty (John Stark's headbutts, etc.), so the refs may have been influenced by that... this current team has a reputation for being a sucky team.

So regardless of the repuation of the team (or even when the two are 180 degrees apart), NYK always ends up on the bad end of the deal with the refs?

Posted by Bonn1997:

Posted by TMS:

Posted by Bonn1997:

Posted by TMS:

tkf, i also agree that the Knicks have been getting fcked up the butt on some of these calls lately... i guess that's what happens when teams are losing so consistently...

I don't know if it's losing or anti-NY reffing. I remember the same thing in the 90s.

Riley's 90's teams had a reputation around the league for playing rough, & sometimes maybe dirty (John Stark's headbutts, etc.), so the refs may have been influenced by that... this current team has a reputation for being a sucky team.

So regardless of the repuation of the team (or even when the two are 180 degrees apart), NYK always ends up on the bad end of the deal with the refs?

no, i didn't say that... you're reading too much into it... i'm saying those 90's had a bad reputation for playing dirty... the current team has a bad reputation for being a crappy team... refs are human beings, not robots... they get influenced whether they say they are or not... that's why great players get the benefit of the calls all the time, & you see rookies, young unproven guys, & guys who have a bad reputation around the league like Rodman & Rasheed get the shaft all the time.

Posted by TMS:

Posted by gunsnewing:

funny how people laughed at Minnesote accepting Chicago deal for Garnett which included Gordon. I mean they much rather have Marbury and his $22mm contract because he is so good. I mean the guy averages 20 & 8 for his career!

dude, you're still not getting the point... it's about where KG wants to play, not what MIN will accept in return for him... if he doesn't want to leave MIN, they're not going to trade him... & if he asks out, CHI isn't a place where he'll want to go knowing that it'll be him & a bunch of young kids left over after they make the deal... let's not beat this into the ground... KG isn't going to CHI, you can bet on that... whether or not he comes to NY is a stretch too, but that's what Isiah's betting on... he's gambling w/multi-million dollar contracts... he better not crap out.

You're not getting the point. I was just making the point that any team in the league would pick Gordon over Marbury. As far as where will KG wind up..who knows?