From the Chicago Tribune by Sam Smith

"Isiah Thomas said he talked to Larry Brown on Thursday morning, as he does every day.

No, he wasn't trying to get him in off the ledge.

"I said to him again this morning," said Thomas, who now takes "embattled" as praise before his title as Knicks president. "'You and I have got to build this together, and we have to stay together. As much as people will tell you that you don't know what you're doing, after coaching in two straight NBA Finals, you know what you're doing. As much as people tell me I don't know what I'm doing, we have to stick to the plan we have, not deviate and be stubborn.'"

Notice Isiah didn't mention any type of success that he's had as an executive as a basis for believing that he knows what he's doing the way he did for LB, mentioning that Brown is coming off of 2 straight Finals appearances as a coach. Any guesses as to why? BECAUSE HE DOESN'T HAVE ANY!!

There is absolutely no reason whatsoever to have faith in Isiah and to believe that he knows what he's doing and that this is all part of a grand plan of his to make us contenders. I defy anyone to prove differently. And no, hopes and dreams and saying "you gotta believe" aren't valid arguments Misterearl and rvhoss.

lol

Posted by NYKniCksFan87:

look im not that supportive of isiah but u seriously need to get off his tip and relax has isiah done something to your family that you dont wanna sahre with us?

No, he's just F***** the franchise, that I've been a fan of for 25 years, as hard as anyone can possibly imagine for the next decade. Sorry if I have a problem with that.

calm down dude....i was just asking a question...no need to get uptight...i know u want IT gone but be easy, just wait and will see what happens...he may have ****ed the franchise over for thenext 10 years or maybe there might be a slight chance that everythingwill work out and the payroll wont matter...i been a fan for 14 years, than again imyounger than you are so ive been spoiled by the patrick ewing era...and seeing all these losses is hard to stomatch butall you can hope for is better days

5 yrs 20 mil for banks??

na how about 4 years 12 million

Went to my first game as a wee lad in 1971.

Talk about being spoiled by success!

Went to many ABA games during the Dr. J years 1974-5-6. So in my little world at that time as young hoop junkie we had championships in 1973, 1974 and 1976! Add the 1970 team as it was part of the culture. 7 seasons, 4 rings for this long Island boy!

I don't see Isiah that different than Sonny Werblin, Al Bianchi, Scotty Sterling, Checketts and Layden. Really. Without Ewing, this franchise would be a disaster in that time frame. We never built a team around him because of impatience.

The Last great mind we had was Eddie Donovan who constructed the great teams of 1968-73. He left to run the Buffalo Braves but we did bring him back one more time. Just like we tried bringing back Red Holzman who failed miserably with the coke head teams we had then.

This team has been thinking the same since 1975. Debussure retired and walt was traded.

Since then its 31 years of starphuching in one form or another. Isiah is no different.

The only one who might have had a clue might have been Grunfeld but his tenure was all too brief. He hired Nelson. Grunfeld lost it really when he was forced to not stand up to Ewing.

The crime here if there was none was nobody was man enough to let Patrick walk. Pandering to his whims has cost us 9 years. Dolan makes bad decisions. Most likely, Isiah is just one more in a long line. Isiah was even dumber to take this gig.

Posted by martin:

Posted by BRIGGS:

I think with the addition of Francis he can save face next year--although as he says it was all LB on that one.

Id be looking at bringing in atleast 2 athletic guys who are 6-10+ a another speed guard like marcus banks so we can always have 2-3 penetrators on the floor at all times.

Something like Gadzuric and josh Boone[im trying to be realistic]

ie. SA pick + Mo Taylor for Gadzuric
Nate Denver pick + cash=Boone
5 years 20mm for Banks


C-Curry Boone
F GadzuricFrye
F Q Rich Lee
G Francis Crawford
G Marbury Banks

[Edited by - BRIGGS on 03-03-2006 09:32 AM]

this sounds very reasonable and actually doable. And don't think for a moment that the Knicks won't try to parlay Rose's contract near the trade deadline.

The only problem is that it'll be parlayed into some other overpriced stiff who LB has no use for but it'll come with the 25th pick in the 07 draft and we'll all be told how great it is to have 2 picks in the 20's when the Bulls are using our lottery pick on Greg Oden.

Posted by martin:

Posted by BRIGGS:

I think with the addition of Francis he can save face next year--although as he says it was all LB on that one.

Id be looking at bringing in atleast 2 athletic guys who are 6-10+ a another speed guard like marcus banks so we can always have 2-3 penetrators on the floor at all times.

Something like Gadzuric and josh Boone[im trying to be realistic]

ie. SA pick + Mo Taylor for Gadzuric
Nate Denver pick + cash=Boone
5 years 20mm for Banks


C-Curry Boone
F GadzuricFrye
F Q Rich Lee
G Francis Crawford
G Marbury Banks

[Edited by - BRIGGS on 03-03-2006 09:32 AM]

this sounds very reasonable and actually doable. And don't think for a moment that the Knicks won't try to parlay Rose's contract near the trade deadline.

Adding another speed pG makes a ton of sense. That means you have two guards maybe 3 on the court at all times that can break you down, very hard to guard and opens up post players for 1-1 moves. bringing in two athletic SB next to Curry and Frye makes a ton of sense.

Posted by djsunyc:

i think jalen will become odom (with filler attached) this summer.
and then lakers will parlay jalen into kg.

this DJ's opinion or DJ+inside?

Posted by islesfan:

Posted by martin:

Posted by BRIGGS:

I think with the addition of Francis he can save face next year--although as he says it was all LB on that one.

Id be looking at bringing in atleast 2 athletic guys who are 6-10+ a another speed guard like marcus banks so we can always have 2-3 penetrators on the floor at all times.

Something like Gadzuric and josh Boone[im trying to be realistic]

ie. SA pick + Mo Taylor for Gadzuric
Nate Denver pick + cash=Boone
5 years 20mm for Banks


C-Curry Boone
F GadzuricFrye
F Q Rich Lee
G Francis Crawford
G Marbury Banks

[Edited by - BRIGGS on 03-03-2006 09:32 AM]

this sounds very reasonable and actually doable. And don't think for a moment that the Knicks won't try to parlay Rose's contract near the trade deadline.

The only problem is that it'll be parlayed into some other overpriced stiff who LB has no use for but it'll come with the 25th pick in the 07 draft and we'll all be told how great it is to have 2 picks in the 20's when the Bulls are using our lottery pick on Greg Oden.

no man, LB is approving each and every aquisition these days. Isiah is handcuffed in the absolute final decisions.

Posted by martin:

Posted by djsunyc:

i think jalen will become odom (with filler attached) this summer.
and then lakers will parlay jalen into kg.

this DJ's opinion or DJ+inside?

dj.

about banks - why not sign a stop gap vet for like a year or two (damon stoudamire would've been good for us) and try to develop nate into a marcus banks up and down pg?