Posted by fishmike:

I met Isles in person. Good guy. He's also asian which means he knows kung-fu by default so I wouldnt mess with him.

I prefer Gung Fu but you get the point.

Don't fight it Fish, he saw a picture. I'd easily dispute his claims but whats the point, he saw a picture.

Parcells, Riley and Shula have all had terrible seasons when they didn't have the right players, as have all great coaches. I'm not even saying that LB is a great coach but great coaches always surround themselves with the types of players that they prefer and don't tend to succeed without them.

Funny that you mentioned those coaches because the common denominator between them and all top coaches is their desire to have smart, mentally tough and defensive minded players. Isiah hasn't acquired a single player that fits that criteria but apparently it's LB fault.

in an interview, lb said that when he interviewed for the job, he told isiah and dolan "this is how i coach" and he wouldn't take the job unless he's allowed to coach the way he's been doing. they both gave him full support and never wavered.

"You don't bring in players that can't play a style that's comfortable for the coach," Brown said after practice. "Isiah and I understand that. He knows the guys I like — it's not easy to make trades."

"We got to have guys who are defensive-minded, have a high basketball I.Q., play unselfish and play hard," he said. "The way I look at it, maybe some of them can't do what I ask."

so lb wants guys that are defensive-minded, have high bball iq, play unselfish and play hard. how many guys one the roster before lb got here can you say that about? obviously it was not the right coach to bring in IF you wanted to coach THESE particular players. but they brought him in anyway. why? b/c he knows how to turn things around. he has better credentials than the guy that hired him. so now that he's here, you do what he says. he says get me these players, then go get him those players. it's pretty simple. i don't think lb cares really too much about who's feelings get hurt along the way as long as he gets the right guys to play his way. he's not getting paid to just coach the team, he's getting paid $10 mil to change the entire direction of the franchise. that's why i'm in the lb camp as well. he's done it everywhere before and i really don't care that one guy gets a few more minutes than the other guy. all i care about is that culture of the team is changing and changing for the better and i think that's what we're seeing. why does it look so nasty? b/c he is thoroughly exposing exactly how BAD it actually is. ALOT of these players don't fit his criteria and he's going to tell isiah to move them. in essence, isiah really is lb's errand boy at this point and he has to swallow his ego big time. if he's on board, then fine, keep him here. this is lb's show and for the first time, in a LONG time, we got a guy that knows what he's doing.

Spurs backcourt were late picks.

Its who you are targeting.

Isiah wanted young athletes and now NY's dunk totals are at the highest they've ever been.

Posted by crzymdups:

Now that my faith in Isiah is completely shattered, I buy the line of logic that Isiah didn't care whether Brown was a good fit, but brought him in to raise his credibility. If Isiah were 15-41 with ANY other coach except maybe Phil Jackson, Isiah would be gone. But because it's Brown, with his history of slow starts, Isiah lives.

At this point, I'm sure Isiah will bring in anyone Brown wants, if only to save his own neck.

Is there any doubt that that's the case? All you hear after every move now is how much LB wanted them with Isiah distancing himself as far as he can. It's LB wants this or LB wanted that but then they talk about how they're working as a team and are on the same page. So if it doesn't work out then it's LB fault but if it does it's because they're all working together. Isiah is a piece of S.

Posted by Nalod:

Timing is everything.

Isiah could have blown it up as many were telling him to, but he was stubbern.

His trades have negative financial impact which gives him the leverage.

Spree turned to KVH to Gazy to nothing but cap fodder.

James, Crawful, and Qrich/nate (1/4 the current roster) are excessive no-role talents.

When Layden was canned, we could have let things fall naturally and waded thru the muck. The garden was dead, and fans were pissed off!

We still pissed off!

The results are in, the record speaks.

Bringing in Larry was bad timing. We restocked our roster and bought in the right man for the wrong players. NOw its rebuild no. 3!

But Larry is the man to build around and the only one that is credible.

Isiah has lost his credibilty.

Larry's comments might sound harsh on these players but for all we know he might be holding back on what he really thinks.

The record speaks for itself!

It's not Isiah's call to blow it up.....It's teh owners call...