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jazz74
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2/28/2006  11:20 AM
is marbury not happy with the coach or the other players? i think marbury accepts brown and even defended him when q-rich said the "start playing" bs. marbury is hurt so we can't fault him YET. but his chemistry killing is getting worrisome. maybe that is why we traded to get francis because marbury is more hurt than we thought? i have always agreed that the talent of this team is very good. but for some reason the players are either disinterested or confused. remember that this is the first time that most of them have played in a major media market like this with decent expectations. they are wilting.
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2/28/2006  11:24 AM
Posted by martin:

eViL - do your thing and post your post. You know the one. As backup evidence.

Sorry I'm late. As requested, he you go:
Posted by eViL:
Posted by fishmike:

there is one difference between Larry and his players. Larry has won at every stop he's been at. He's never had a losing record for any team he's coached. The flip side? JJ, Marbury, Franchise, Q, Mo T, Crawford, Curry, my god, every single veteran player except Malik is a career loser in the NBA. Thats mind boggling. And we have the highest payroll in the NBA. These are the stars Isiah has brought us.

In support of what Fish is saying, I present to you:

Exhibit A:


PLAYER 	               YRS       ACCOMPLISHMENTS
Jackie Butler 	        1        N/A (not enough experience)
Jamal Crawford 	        5        Zero
Eddy Curry 	        4        Zero
Steve Francis 	        6        Best player on mostly losing teams (Traded 3 times)
Channing Frye 	        R        N/A (not enough experience)
Jerome James 	        5        Zero
David Lee 	        R        N/A (not enough experience)
Stephon Marbury 	9        Best player on mostly losing teams (Traded 4 times)
Quentin Richardson 	5        A playoff series win with the Suns
Nate Robinson 	        R        N/A (not enough experience)
Jalen Rose 	        11       Significant contributer on some deep playoff teams (Traded 4 times)
Malik Rose 	        9        Role player on an NBA Championship Team
Maurice Taylor 	        7        Zero
Qyntel Woods 	        3        N/A (not enough experience)



Larry Brown's Achievements

    * 1973 Carolina Cougars: ABA Western Division regular season champions
    * 1976 Denver Nuggets: ABA regular season champions (single-division)
    * 1977 Denver Nuggets: NBA Midwest Division Champions
    * 1978 Denver Nuggets: NBA Midwest Division Champions
    * 1980 UCLA: NCAA Championship Game
    * 1986 Kansas: NCAA Final Four & Big Eight Conference Champions
    * 1988 Kansas: NCAA National Champions
    * 1990 San Antonio Spurs: NBA Midwest Division Champions
    * 1991 San Antonio Spurs: NBA Midwest Division Champions
    * 1995 Indiana Pacers: NBA Central Division Champions
    * 2001 Philadelphia 76ers: NBA Eastern Conference Champions
    * 2004 Detroit Pistons: NBA Champions
    * 2005 Detroit Pistons: NBA Eastern Conference Champions
    * College: 1 National Championship, 3 Final Fours in 7 seasons
    * Pro: 1 Championship, 3 Conference Championships, 10 Division Championships, 
      25 Playoff appearances in 26 seasons
    * 1,000 career NBA wins


Exhibit B:



Name                    Seasons         Playoff Appearances
Larry Brown             26              25

Jamal Crawford 	        5	        0
Eddy Curry 	        4	        0
Steve Francis 	        6	        1
Jerome James 	        5	        3
Stephon Marbury 	9	        4
Quentin Richardson 	5	        1
Jalen Rose 	        11	        5
Malik Rose 	        9	        8
Maurice Taylor 	        7	        1

Team Total              61              23
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2/28/2006  11:30 AM
i don't think Marbury is happy w/the other players... i think the only players he truly gets along w/on this team (other than the rooks) are Jamal & Curry... coincidentally, all 3 of them look absolutely clueless under LB's coaching.

the only guys i see somewhat fighting these days are Q Rich (horrid shooting notwithstanding), Jalen Rose, Channing Frye, David Lee, Jackie Butler & Malik Rose (horrid game notwithstanding)... Steve Francis still looks lost, but he's new so i give him a pass... what's Marbury's excuse? is his hurt shoulder causing all the turnovers, bad defense & dour looks at his teammates when they miss shots too? i'm sick of his act... time for the Coney Island kid to get outta town, for everyone's own good.
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