Posted by Rich:

You don't rebuild without being able to use your high first round picks that you get for rebuilding.

Posted by bigbeast:

We can talk about blowing this teamup until we are blue in the face but its obvious that ain't happening. LB isn't the type of coach you rebuild with and with the recent transaction of Franchise, its obvious what the plan is now.

Accumulate enough tradeable assets to go after a big time player. Right or wrong that seems to be the direction. Isiah said numerous times that he is rebuilding in an unsual way. The traditional way, is to cut salary, get under the cap and try to get multiple picks. Most times that way doesn't work. Chicago has been rebuilding for about 10 yrs. They've started-over three times. Orlando will be under the cap this summer. Looks good, but who are they gonna sign in a weak FA field?

Isiahs way is risky, but it just might work. We never seen this way of rebuilding thats why everyone is scrathing their heads wondering whats going on. But, I say give Isiah this summer, at least and lets see how this team looks in october.

With LB here for about 3 more yrs, and 2 29 yr old pg's (one of them will here, I'm sure) Knicks mind as well go after KG. Why not?

If Isiah feels he can put together a team (for argument sake, lets say a lineup of Curry, KG, Odom, Marbury, ?) that he feels can compete for the eastern conference title, then I guess you have to do it. The bottom line is Championships. Not 8th seeds, and first round ousters.

That team gives us about a 3-4 yr window of getting a shot to win it all. You can argue all day if that team would be capable of winning a championship, but other than Detroit, who is really that good in the east? Nets are 8 games over 500. Shaq is on his way out, and Indy can no longer be considered a serious threat.

The way tis team looks now, there is no way it'll be competing for anything except an 8th seed. By the time Frye fully develops, Marb will be on the way out and we'll be starting over agin anyway.

I was always of the opinion that this team should have been blown up, and built around Frye and Curry but that isn't happening. So, if Isiah can put together a team through trades that can seriously compete with detroit for the next three yrs, I guess you have to give it a shot.

[Edited by - bigbeast on 02-25-2006 1:56 PM]

Posted by islesfan:

What are these tradeable assets that you speak of? And why exactly do you think that they are enough to acquire any of those players that you mentioned?

If Isiah can't get any of those players then where is this franchise?

Posted by bigbeast:

Posted by Rich:

Posted by martin:

Posted by Rich:

You don't rebuild without being able to use your high first round picks that you get for rebuilding.

no, that's your definition of rebuilding. With Isiah he gave up with pick for Curry, who he said he would have drafted with the first pick IF he had it. So.... what's the difference?

I think that's just spin. More importantly, Isiah didn't have to give up an unprotected 1st round pick because it wasn't foreseeable that the Knicks would be this bad. I think that Isiah didn't get at least top three protection because he is arrogant to consider the possiblity that the Knicks could be this bad. That also makes him stupid.

And let's not forget that next year's 1st round pick (the Bulls can elect to switch draft position) is unprotected as well. I'm sure you wouldn't disagree that Oden is bettter than Curry, and so would Isiah.

Isiah is a moron, and he needs to go.

Who in there right mind thought this team would be this bad? Especially with Brown at the helm? But I agree, that pick should have lotto protected or top five at least.