fishmike - you REALLY think Isiah is all done with his Extreme Knicks Maekeover?

C'mon, wake up and smell the Peppermint Tea

He's just getting warmed up

Posted by Marv:

Getting warmed up is spending 2+years on the job and producing a 15-38 team without its #1 for the next 2 years????

yeah, that's the basis of it. The reason Dallas could afford to have a $100 million payroll with spare guys like Jamison and Toine Walker making the max is because they had a SYSTEM in place, a style of play and an identity.

My biggest problem with what Isiah and particularly Larry have done this year: what the hell is our identity? What is our system? Before you can go out and get major additions that make sense, you have to know what you want. The style of play we run seems to change every team a sexy new name pops up on the market. Curry comes and all of the sudden we spend half the first and third quarter throwing the ball into the post or turning it over trying to do so. Now, with Francis, we're leaning towards run and gun again, so it SEEMS. Who really knows. Two months ago we were starting Nate, Marbury, Lee, AD, Curry. It was a defensive lineup that could get out and run. We had a semi-decent anchor in AD.

Now, we have no anchor, no defense (Marbury and Francis are our best defenders, and they're nice, average defenders but what does that tell you about EVERYONE else?) and presumably we'll be a run and gun team, but probably not with Larry's stubborness and our inability to get stops or keep turnovers and fouls down. So we have a run and gun roster with the ultimate half-court, defense loving coach. It's gonna be ugly and it doesn't make sense to anyone in the league. Prepare for lots of Malik Rose at small forward when we SHOULD be running three guard sets all night and forcing people to guard us.

That's why every is rightly giving Isiah a hard time - it's a nice collection of talent, but obviously it hasn't worked so far and now with Francis we've taken on another huge project of making two guards who NEED the ball in their hands to be effective and seeing if it flies. There's no lotto pick waiting at the end if the project fails, only more failed promises and dubious hopes that WE'LL be the ones to land KG. Dr. Buss (Lakers owner) has already spoken to Wolves owner Glen Taylor to arrange a meeting with Garnett this summer. I'd give the Lakers the lead in acquring KG. They have Odom and Bynum to offer, which is as good or better than anything we can offer.

If Isiah has a plan, its basically like a screwed up blueprint of what the Mavs did except they were able to still win with the talented guys they added while our guys will just decrease in value if we can't win. This means that there won't be a Shaq type of deal where we trade 2 or 3 talented guys for a superstar (in this case KG) unless somehow hell freezes over and we start winning.

I think its hard to dislike the Francis deal individually because of what we gave up. But if Isiah does have a plan, it depends on a miracle (aka us getting Garnett) making it a really bad plan.

i think we need to give this new team atleast another 5 games to see anything close to where we can be from here forward. i will be watching very intently tonight as i am hoping the knicks slowly start to reveal wat style of basketball they are going to play.

The team and Zeke need more than five games, they need the summer too - Like Earl said, he's just warming up...and like HArdcore said, we don't have a crystal ball - although we'd love to!

>>What's the plan, then?

crzy - to keep the "plan" an internal matter so deals can be made

Unless you think printing a "syllabus" in the media guide would help things

Party on!



[Edited by - MisterEarl on 02-25-2006 07:37 AM]