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who would YOU start at SF?: Q or JRose?
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Elite
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2/24/2006  10:41 AM
I think q will get it cuz he has been playing better of late plus better d.... I would like to see jalan start cuz I feel our offense could benefit from his savvy .... but I think its more important that we raise Q stock plus he younger what can j rose really do for us long term?
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2/24/2006  10:44 AM
Actually I sort of think it is no question that Rose should come off the bench but the choice should be Lee or Q and I really don't have a real preference...they both bring the same D, it's just Q may bring more outside shooting while Lee may bring you more intensity. thing is, If you put Q on the second unit he may not have to play with Steph.
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2/24/2006  10:46 AM
QRich. If we've got this many guards, time to see if they can create some space and ball movement to free up Frye/Curry inside.
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2/24/2006  10:48 AM
Marbury, Francis, Q, Lee, Curry (run run run) and bring Rose, Frye, Crawford off the bench
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2/24/2006  10:52 AM
Q should start due to the defense he's been playing... i like Rose playing the SG spot off the bench, & playing the point F spot when they go w/a smaller rotation while Marbs or Francis are getting rest... i use Craw like a utility backcourt guy off the bench as well... Nate probably is out of the rotation for now.

i'd have Lee backing up Frye at the 4, & playing some 3 when they go w/a bigger rotation.
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2/24/2006  10:52 AM
It'll be interesting to see what rotation LB uses tonight.
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2/24/2006  10:54 AM
for us to win with THIS roster, he'll have to adjust his philosophy...
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2/24/2006  11:08 AM
I'd start Q or Lee for the Dee. In fact I think I like fish's lineup the most. That unit seems like it'd have the best blend of O and D our roster can muster.

For raw offensive output, a Curry/Frye/Rose/Francis/Marbury lineup should be incredibly hard to contain though. That could be a real powerhouse of an offense.
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2/24/2006  11:16 AM
only if guys share the ball.. it could just as easily be an offense where guys just go one on one which means everyone else stands around. No open looks, no crashing the boards and no 2nd chances. These guys gotta commit to being unselfish and playing team ball for those kinds of line ups to work
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2/24/2006  11:17 AM
Lee over Frye is interesting but i tell you what, I think it'll be more interesting if LB gets down to business and benches Curry until he can play like a true center, D and all.....

Marbury/Francis/Q/Lee/Frye
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2/24/2006  11:19 AM
True fish, but with LB constantly harping on moving the ball I think they will get it done. Marbury seemed to be getting it before his injury, and Jalen hasn't been a hog since he's been here. Remains to be seen how Francis will fit in, but if nothing else he'll likely be our SG most of the time so he could potentially be a good playmaking SG instead of a subpar PG.
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2/24/2006  11:40 AM
I really hate the fact that we have Rose on the team, if we didn't make the Francis deal then fine, but Isiah is a ****ing ******* and he is taking away minutes that should go to Lee....

Do like the D Q has been playing.....
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2/24/2006  11:41 AM
Posted by MS:

I really hate the fact that we have Rose on the team, if we didn't make the Francis deal then fine, but Isiah is a ****ing ******* and he is taking away minutes that should go to Lee....

Do like the D Q has been playing.....

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2/24/2006  11:42 AM
tell us how you really feel MS...
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2/24/2006  11:50 AM
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tell us how you really feel MS...

Hilarious!

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2/24/2006  11:50 AM
Posted by MS:

I really hate the fact that we have Rose on the team, if we didn't make the Francis deal then fine, but Isiah is a ****ing ******* and he is taking away minutes that should go to Lee....

Do like the D Q has been playing.....

That's ****ing right man. Fucking Isiah definitely had his mother****ing head up his ****ing ass when he came up with the stupid ****ing plan to bring sorryass Jalen Fucking Rose and his ****ing piece of **** contract here.
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2/24/2006  11:53 AM
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2/24/2006  11:57 AM
Posted by fishmike:

Marbury, Francis, Q, Lee, Curry (run run run) and bring Rose, Frye, Crawford off the bench


i actually like that for Lee's rebounding but im cool with either frye or lee starting......


I Changed my mind.. i DEFF think Q should start because we need Rose's smarts/ball moving in that second unit
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2/24/2006  12:16 PM
I think we should start the best rebounding frontcourt that we have to go with the Franchise/Starbury backcourt. We should have Frye, Lee and Q1 starting with the dynamic duo. Have Curry come off the bench with Jalen to have them feast on the 2nd unit with their halfcourt sets. Throw in Jackie Butler and Q2 to make a 9 man rotation and let it roll.

Starting unit
C-Frye
PF-Lee
SF-Q1
SG-Francis
PG-Marbury

We should implement a tough hand-to-hand pressure type defense and run on every miss, make and turnover. We have 2 ball handlers, 1 spot-up and 2 finishers in the starting line-up.

2nd Unit
C-Curry
PF-Fyre/Lee
SF-Jalen/Q1
SG-Francis/Jalen
PG-Marbury/Jalen

With the 2nd units in, Curry should have a field day getting his points. This is where we pound the opposing team and run when we can ala the Celtics of old.

If anything else, it would be fun to watch.
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2/24/2006  12:20 PM
One thing I'm actually starting to like about this trade is we now have two consistent studs to break down the defense. If we can put them out on the floor with other shooters and athletes who are willing to give some effort on D, it will at the worst be fun to watch.

In thinking about the philosophy behind this trade, the money doesn't faze me (we are only going to add more salary this summer), what bothers me the most is pulling the trigger so early on the Jalen trade. That trade, while the pick was nice, killed our flexibility at the deadline and was a total panic move while Marbury was out. It resulted in 1 win over what, 11 games of Jalen? Now Jalen is spare part. Maybe his ball movement is a help, but I'm guessing he'll be looking for his own shot when he does get the ball.

One thing Larry REALLY has to instill to these guys is ball movement to make this work. Steph and Steve are going to get 15-20pts just being on the court, they need to make sure to get Frye, QRich, Curry and Jalen and (hopefully) DLee involved. It will be an interesting experiment to watch, and we really have nothing to lose at this point.

To me, there's not a ton of risk attached to this trade. We were killed by Craw's inconsistency all season, Francis will give us that consistency, plus things Craw could never do. If Marbury/Francis works, you have an excellent talent base with which to build on this summer. If you can add a healthy Kmart over the summer without giving up Frye, then the roster makes a lot more sense.

Just, the Rose trade is still frustrating and seems like a very expensive patch job that didn't patch a thing.
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