Posted by islesfan:

Posted by Silverfuel:

Posted by islesfan:

I'm sure LB has been pining for Rose and Francis and forced Isiah to acquire them. I guess this season has been so rough that some people have switched from Kool-Aid to Crack to help them get through it.

islesfan, did you read Larry Brown's quote in the post? There is a thread dedicated to it.

Brown took credit for spurring the Francis deal, despite speculation he preferred using Penny Hardaway's contract for Ratliff. "I bugged Isiah when I saw [Francis'] name," Brown said.

http://www.nypost.com/sports/knicks/62359.htm

Seriously, what's he supposed to say? Just use your common sense and understanding of what type of players LB likes and do you honestly believe that LB wanted either Rose or Francis? If they had made a trade for Ratliff instead I would have to agree with the premise somewhat but there is absolutely nothing to make anyone believe they are the types of players that LB wants.

So you have decided a direct quote should be ignored because it seems out of character....

Then you have later speculation from a writer who says he didn't think it was LB's decision..

Both guys ignoring words from LB's lips...

Wow.....

It'll be a culinary masterpiece once Steph is moved.

Posted by nyk4ever:

How is this a bad trade? I still don't get what people are complaining about. The Knicks acquired an all-star for a washed player and someone who rarely played and when he did showed that he couldn't hit the ocean when falling out of a boat with his jumpshooting? The Knicks traded absolutely nothing in this deal and his contract expires the same year that all the big contracts on this roster expire. I really don't get some of you guys...

LOL some of those guys don't get it themselves.

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forget "larry brown type of player". every coach wants talent. every coach would want francis on their roster. now every gm may NOT want him b/c the GM has to determine how it all fits but every coach wants a guy that can ball regardless of fit. especially since they gave up two players on IR that the coach wasn't using. he's now our 2nd most talented player behind steph.

Trust me, I'm the last guy who believes in this Larry type player nonsense...But overall, these last two moves certainly does look like we are moving away from isiah plan of getting younger and trying to build around Frye and Curry....We finally get Marbs willing to play the style that we want...How does JRose and Franchise fit into what we are trying to do around here...Yeah he is a talent we got for nothing or even a steal in this trade...This move just look like we are not trying to build something here....It just look like we are moving away from what Isiah and Larry is saying the Knicks' future is...This move reeks of a quick fix and as Isiah said in the press conference, "Just crazy enough to work"...Thats not really inspiring.....

[Edited by - holfresh on 02-24-2006 1:08 PM]

[Edited by - holfresh on 02-24-2006 1:10 PM]

Posted by holfresh:

Trust me, I'm the last guy who believes in this Larry type player nonsense...But overall, these last two move certainly does not make it look like we are moving away from isiah plan of getting younger and trying to build around Frye and Curry....We finally get Marbs willing to play the style that we want...How does JRose and Franchise fit into what we are trying to do around here...Yeah he is a talent we got for nothing or even a steal in this trade...This move just look like we are not trying to build something here....It just look like we are moving away from what Isiah and Larry is saying the Knicks' future is...

cotrary to popular belief in todays HS filled NBA 29 is not old, the knicks can still build around curry and frye, they have lee, nate, Q woods, Q rich is only 25, they have two draft picks, but you need some young vets who can play, the nets got kidd when he was 29, they built around him and went to the finals twice. The pistons are considered a fairly young team in their primes and the average age of their starting 5 is about 29, the knicks are younger than that.So this does not hinder the knicks rebuilding plan, now trading lee, frye or curry probably does that, but i don't see how this hampers that at all..

Francis' approach to he game is much more mature than Steph "lets not run any plays" Marbury

This scares me because nothing from Larry's past dictates he can build a great team in this league. He is a great coach but I doubt the Pistons win a championship if Larry Brown was doing Dumars' job ever since the beginning.

Larry needs to concentrate on coaching, we need our own Joe Dumars here badly. A smart GM who doesn't need Larry's approval on deals and is able to give him a good team to work with. However, I think we can all agree though that it probably can't get much worse with Larry basically calling the shots now.

I still pray that Thomas turns into a capable GM overnight and that he really has a great plan no one knows about.