Posted by Bippity10:
What no one gets is that the names don't matter. The names constantly change and yet nothing in NY since Patrick has changed. We've had 50 new coach'es, built around Spree, Houston, Dice, Marbs and now Curry. All this in a couple seasons. WE are soon to be working on our 3rd GM.
Why does this keep happening. Why do we keep harping on the same problems and blaming the same people that just ahve different names. When are the knowledgeable NY fans going to stand up and demand a stable plan. Grab a proven winner of a coach(does not matter who just needs to be a proven winner like LB). Then grab a winner as a GM who can get on the same page as LB or whoever else. Then give them 3, 4, 5 years to turn this mess around without having to worry about being fired.
We fans seem to get some sort of satisfaction out of each firing. Feeling like we finally got the guy that did this to us and now we can turn it around. Yet we never do. Why? Because each time we fire someone we have to start over again. Each time we get a new GM or coach they have to get on the same page. We need a team that can build together. It's like we pit our coach's and GM's against each other and then watch them undermine each other. Each guy making a move to save his own arse. When will it end????? When will we get sick of it and realize it's not the star players' fault. It's not the coach's fault. It's not the GM's fault. It is the atmosphere of losing that has permeated the entire organization from top to bottom, forcing all involved to only think about themselves.
Those who have posted with me for a while no I've been saying this since the MSG days. GEt a GM and coach that are willing to work togehter. Let them make mistakes and learn from their mistakes. Let them build a team together. That's when you will see a title. Patience is the only way. Hoping for the next hero player, or hero GM or superstar coach just leaves us with the status quo.
It's all so clear to me.
are you implying that fans shouldnt want Isiah or Larry to be fired? I know that stability is a factor but, come on here bibbity, Isiah has done a piss poor job so far as knicks GM, and shows no signs of changing his methods that have lead to this situation. isnt it possible, if not likely that the longer he is allowed to be GM the more and more the knicks will lose? doesnt it therefore makes sense to fire him before he does more harm? I mean its not like Isiah ever said that it would take a couple of seasons for the knicks to be a good team or anything, if he did than it would be different, but Thomas specifically said that he wants to win now, and place a lesser priority on developing our rooks, and his decision in his trades and coaching hirings further support this. and he has utterly failed in his attempt to do so. Why shouldnt he therefore be fired? what makes you think that this team will get better if Isiah continutes to be the GM? What I ask you? WHAT?
and also technically larry brown should be fired too, simply becuase he isnt the right coach for this roster. Ill admit that Larry Wins wherever he goes, but we dont have the type of players that larrys unique coaching style needs in order to be successful.
P.S. on a side note, I dont want Isiah to be fired right now, but rather at the end of next season , Im willing to see what zeke can do this offseason.
P.S.S. I agree with you that only through rebuilding through a coach, and Gm thats on the same page that have the patience to slowly develop its players is the only way we will see a championship, but its already been proven that Isiah and Larry arent that coach and GM.
[Edited by - slimpack on 02-27-2006 9:08 PM]