http://www.nytimes.com/2006/02/16/sports/basketball/16knicks.html?_r=1&oref=slogin

Marbury got 12% of the vote--248 players were polled. Francis received 9% of the vote.

Congratulations Steph!

[Edited by - knight on 02-16-2006 12:05 AM]

damn man....why don't we just take Marbs around the back and shoot him.....

Why do people continue to find ways to diss Marbs? What did he do in his past lives to deserve it?

bfd

never got pass the 1st round and not really a team leader..

Posted by NotFrye:

You guys should read "The last shot" which has some ethnographic interviews with Steph and his family during his high school and junior high years. The skinny is that Stephon is a phenomenal player, but he's really a c0cky jerk when it comes to other players- very very blunt and honest. It's not that he's unintelligent (high high bball iq) but he is not diplomatic at all with people and enjoys putting down players that aren't as good as him. I'm guessing he was at least partly responsible for the rumored inhouse fighting with the likes of KT.

I'll check it out....

As long as I have been following Marbury, reporters have been going out of their way to write bad stuff about him. Even in High School.....Iverson is the same way but it took alot of years to kinda get that monkey off his back. Now you never hear about Iverson.....he hasn't changed and he will gladly tell you that. I think Iverson has earned the respect now on the court......I guess Marbs won't get that monkey off his back untill he starts winning.....



[Edited by - enyspree on 02-16-2006 01:19 AM]

Marbury is not overrated, he just plays in N.Y.

Wanna know the big joke about the whole thing? 12%? What the hell is 12%? There is another 88% that wasn't mentioned......

The whole thing is retarded if you ask me.

[Edited by - enyspree on 02-16-2006 07:29 AM]

Posted by gunsnewing:

woo i was beginning to think i was alone and falling off the edge. dont know about most overrated but definitely most overpaid

Nah most overpaid is Penny at $1 million per point.

Marbs is fine. My biggest problem with him is that he's below average on D. I really wonder how people will percieve him if/when he gets to play with an equivalent or better scoring option.

[Edited by - VDesai on 02-16-2006 08:27 AM]

Posted by nyk4ever:

Posted by EnySpree:

damn man....why don't we just take Marbs around the back and shoot him.....

Why do people continue to find ways to diss Marbs? What did he do in his past lives to deserve it?

Probably the same way you find anything to criticize Larry Brown. Some people just don't like other people. It's sad but true. How did people criticize Patrick Ewing!

No doubt about the Ewing line. That guy was hated in NY. Blamed for everything wrong with the Knicks during his tenture, everything wrong with NY after his tenture and what wrong with their lives. The way people would talk about Ewing you thought the he purposely lost games for the Knicks. I mean from reporters, teammates, fans and people who worked for the organization (add Clyde and Albert to that list). Charles Dolan didn't care for the guy. The was called overrated, underachieving and waste of talent during his career. Now people refer to Ewing's teams with respect and try to put the blame on guys like Layden and Thomas for the shape of the KNicks. Now mostly now on Thomas. Funny how absence makes the heart grow fonder. Now I even hear talk of how great Grunfeld (who was ran out of town), Checketts (who follow him) and even now Layden. Nothing surprise me now. I want to see another another player come to NY and try to win in that city, that ownership, management fans and media base.

what some of you are missing was this was a poll of NBA players- they were asked- who is the most overrated player (i.e., the one player who is not as good as the hype around him).

Since it was open ended, you have the two most named players coming in with only 12 & 9 percent.

I'm sure that Tmac, Kobe & Yao were on that list- albeit at a smaller percentage.

This to me carries some weight because its a vote from guys that play against each other.

here is the original off SI:
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2006/players/02/14/poll.0214/

The most overrated?
Stephon Marbury, Knicks.....12%
Yao Ming, Rockets.....10%
Steve Francis, Magic.....9%
Carmello Anthony, Nuggets.....5%
Tracy McGrady, Rockets.....4%
Michael Olowokandi, Celtics.....4%
Kobe Bryant, Lakers.....3%
Paul Pierce, Celtics.....3%
Kenyon Martin, Nuggets.....3%
Jermaine O'Neal, Pacers.....3%