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which trade had the better rationale: curry or dice?
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djsunyc
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2/15/2006  10:11 AM
dice

the scenario: we were still a playoff team with veterans on the roster. h20 and spree were in their prime. dice was a 20/10 player before his injury (the first of his career). we traded an oft injured center and the #7 pick overall (which wasn't going to be amare as he was locked up by pheonix early).

the objective: to pair our two allstar caliber wing players with a legitimate down low presence at PF, and an elite one at that in a big man starved easter conference.

the result: the concern of his knee turns out to be a valid one as dice blows out his knee again, later to be moved in the marbury deal.

curry

the scenario: we assembled a relatively young team the past 1 1/2 years. our future core was anticipated to be: craw, ariza, frye, lee, nate. nyc is now in a much publicized "rebuild" with the best coach in the nba to teach them. along comes a 23 year old center to go with that core. we trade an undersize PF, two unprotected picks (one of which is a swap), and 2 second rounders.

the objective: to have a franchise center in ny after the ewing era and who is young enough to pair with the rest of the rooks for the future. the center has a history of motivation and weight issues but the hope is that a coach like larry brown would fix that.

the result: to be determined but the concerns from before are proven to be valid ones as they are still concerns now.





which trade had the better rationale?
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MS
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2/15/2006  11:04 AM
The Dice trade would have been great had he been healthy we would have been a force considering that team won 39 games and spree missed the first 10......Or Layden could have just drafted Prince or Amare told Camby to take the season off and look to deal Spree in an effort to tank the season for the lebron sweepstakes......but thats in the past

Curry just doesn't get it and you can see that he is one of the most talented big man to come around in a long time but just doesn't keep his head in the game or try...
McK1
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2/15/2006  11:05 AM
the Dice trade.
the stop underrating David Lee movement 1. FIRE MIKE 2. HIRE MULLIN 3. PAY AVERY 4. FREE NATE!!!
sbensol74
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2/15/2006  11:08 AM
Curry Trade- i still have faith it'll all pan out. The kid is only 22, he should be a rookie right now. Give it some time.

Dice was hurt and we knew it.
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2/15/2006  11:25 AM
In hindsight, neither trade had great rationale. I think the McDyess trade, based on what we gave up, and where the team was at that point, was a better deal. At that point, Camby's injury history was much worse than Dice's, And he was on paper a talent upgrade. We gave up the 7th pick, which we would've likely used on Wilcox or Jeffries (not a great loss) and even got back a 1st rounder, which was used on Frank Williams (we could have found a better use for that - Boozer, perhaps)

The problem with this trade, had Dice not gotten hurt, is that it would have prolonged our playoff run but wouldn't have put us over the top.(Much like the subsequent Marbury trade) Houston maybe wouldn't have gotten hurt trying to come back from injury early, but would have broken down eventually.

As for the Curry trade, I beleived from the start of his free agency that the Bulls would've matched an MLE. Now I'm not so sure. If Isiah had wiated this one out, instead of blowing the MLE on James, I think he could have nabbed Curry. But, even with that off the table, rebuilding on the fly still needs some semblance of fiscal sanity. Sure, Curry, Craw, and Q1 were considered part of the young core, but they are all pulling in $6-8mm, with escalations to 9-10mm in a few years. Even so, giving Curry the big contract, even with the heart issue, wouldn't be so bad if not for the unprotected picks. This is the real killer.

If the trade wasn't made, Curry would have been forced to take the 1 year tender and could have come unrestricted for the MLE this summer. Especially if Paxon was true to his word and forced Curry to sit out the year for not taking the DNA test. And really, would we be any worse if we hadn't made the Curry trade? At least Sweets grabs boards, which LB would like.
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2/15/2006  11:34 AM
The trades are similar - they were both gambles.

I supported the trade for Curry, but I expected him to be able to contribute more. So in retrospect, the loss of the draft picks makes the deal much less attractive.

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2/15/2006  12:08 PM
Both Illogically logical for their respected logic.
which trade had the better rationale: curry or dice?

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