So, Layden wants to bring Van Exel,
it will be a good deal??

Posted by nykfan:

So, Layden wants to bring Van Exel,
it will be a good deal??

hopefully.

Posted by falcindor:

Center 1st priority once we get a starting center we can focus on PG. VanExel is a good PG but too scoring oriented to mesh withg Spree AND Houston.

Thats a bad idea, there aren't any good centers out their so might as well try and get a good point guard. You can put any stiff at center in the eastern conference and get results. If the Knicks keep waiting they will miss out on NVE and be left with a 4 points a game center anyways.

Posted by falcindor:

Center 1st priority once we get a starting center we can focus on PG. VanExel is a good PG but too scoring oriented to mesh withg Spree AND Houston.

must upgrade when and where you can - we can't play the entire season with ward and eisley at the pg... remember ward's knees are unreliable?!

If the Mavs sign Rashard Lewis, would they still be interested in KT? I know that Lewis is primarily a small forward, but he is 6'10" and probably could move to PF. Hopefully they'd still want KT.

I'd love to have Van Exel. He's proved then when he has guys to pass to, he does. His last full season with McDyess in Denver, he averaged 21 points and 8 assists. That's better then anybody on the Knicks last year. For KT, his trade value is never going to be higher. Still, the Knicks need 2 centers before I'd trade him away. If VE came here, I'd hope for 17 points and 10 assists. With McDyess putting up 20 and 10, Houston putting up 20, and Spree with 18, that's a ton of scoring just in 4 players. I'd do it.

Posted by BigSm00th:

If the Mavs sign Rashard Lewis, would they still be interested in KT? I know that Lewis is primarily a small forward, but he is 6'10" and probably could move to PF. Hopefully they'd still want KT.

I'd love to have Van Exel. He's proved then when he has guys to pass to, he does. His last full season with McDyess in Denver, he averaged 21 points and 8 assists. That's better then anybody on the Knicks last year. For KT, his trade value is never going to be higher. Still, the Knicks need 2 centers before I'd trade him away. If VE came here, I'd hope for 17 points and 10 assists. With McDyess putting up 20 and 10, Houston putting up 20, and Spree with 18, that's a ton of scoring just in 4 players. I'd do it.

houston has never scored more than 20 ppg as a season average.

look for these numbers to be the case if we're healthy (without vanX)

houston: 17ppg
spree: 16ppg
dice: 19ppg 10 rpg
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with van x

houston: 15ppg
spree: 15ppg
dice: 18ppg 10rpg
vanX: 15ppg 9apg

Posted by Caseloads:

Posted by BigSm00th:

If the Mavs sign Rashard Lewis, would they still be interested in KT? I know that Lewis is primarily a small forward, but he is 6'10" and probably could move to PF. Hopefully they'd still want KT.

I'd love to have Van Exel. He's proved then when he has guys to pass to, he does. His last full season with McDyess in Denver, he averaged 21 points and 8 assists. That's better then anybody on the Knicks last year. For KT, his trade value is never going to be higher. Still, the Knicks need 2 centers before I'd trade him away. If VE came here, I'd hope for 17 points and 10 assists. With McDyess putting up 20 and 10, Houston putting up 20, and Spree with 18, that's a ton of scoring just in 4 players. I'd do it.

houston has never scored more than 20 ppg as a season average.

look for these numbers to be the case if we're healthy (without vanX)

houston: 17ppg
spree: 16ppg
dice: 19ppg 10 rpg
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with van x

houston: 15ppg
spree: 15ppg
dice: 18ppg 10rpg
vanX: 15ppg 9apg

yeah, but where does the rebonding and defense come in? And who starts at center? The above would be the smallest line up in the NBA.

Posted by BigSm00th:

Unless last season was some sort of mirage, I remember Houston averaging 20+ ppg last year. (I checked, it was 20.4). Either way, with Van Exel, Houston, Sprewell, and McDyess, the Knicks will have 4 threats a game who could catch fire and go for 30+. I think Spree or Houston would average more then 15 a game, but that's just me.

how would they? there are only so many shots to go around, and spreading it out over 3 players is rough. sorry, i thought i saw somewhere that neither houston or latrell averaged over 20ppg last season, i thought houston's was 19.6 or so... maybe his career avg is lower than 20ppg. someone check on that.

regardless... we need someone to play center, and who is going to do it?

Jazz trolling for point guards
Added: 5th August, 2002

The Jazz's focus in the free-agency market has shifted for the time being to two guards who can play the point, Damon Jones and Erick Strickland, and an injury-hampered small forward from Philadelphia, Matt Harpring.

"Yeah, (there is) interest in both," Kevin O'Connor, the Jazz's vice president of basketball operations, said of Jones and Strickland, undrafted journeymen who played last season in Detroit and Boston, respectively.

With 40-year-old all-time NBA steals and assists leader John Stockton expected to return for a 19th season with the Jazz and Spanish rookie Raul Lopez prepared to play his first season in Utah, the Jazz hope to sign an experienced and affordable guard who can handle the ball.

"It's a position-need we have," O'Connor said. "We would like to carry three point guards."


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Maybe send them Eisley - familiar with their system for Greg Ostertag? I know 'Tag is garbage and just donated a kidney, but he'd survive out east, and is probably better than doleac and has a reasonable UTAH connection which is a Layden MUST...

Well if I read the numerous articles correctly, if the Mavs somehow get Rashard Lewis they'll play Nowitzki at the PF slot, creating a very tall lineup

PG Nash

SG Finley

SF Lewis

PF Nowitzki

C LaFrentz

this is what they pitched to Rashard Lewis anyway, as he'll have to get some minutes or why else sign with the Mavs?

So yes, eventhough they really need a regular PF Rashard Lewis signing with the mavs might mean KT isn't their focus anymore, just a guess anyway.

Posted by BigSm00th:

They might still look to acquire him for defensive and rebounding purposes, similar to what Greg Buckner and Edjuardo Najera played last year for them.

yeah, and buck is gone... they want crazy eyes... i mean, who else in the nba besides kt is psycho enough to taunt Shaq? Dudley did, and shaq banged him down.

well if the knicks get a center through trade they could use one of or part of the exceptions for one of the FA pg's.

Troy Hudson, Jeff McInnis or even Rafer Alston(for the million dollar exception) come to mind.

Would give the knicks a good PG without any long term headaches which VanX would be.