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djsunyc
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Which superstars might be relocated?
By Chris Sheridan

A few folks in Philadelphia are clamoring for the 76ers to trade Allen Iverson, figuring they've already gone as far as they're going to get under the leadership of the diminutive scoring machine who has produced more than 18,000 points over the past decade.

In Minneapolis, the pulse of Kevin Garnett is being constantly checked, his level of satisfaction persistently gauged for a reading on whether his plan for long-term happiness includes staying with the Timberwolves for the rest of his career.

In New York, it was open season on Stephon Marbury before the travails of Isiah Thomas butted him out of the way, and in Orlando there's more smoke than fire surrounding Steve Francis, who's generating plenty of phone calls from opposing teams who are convinced he's available despite the Magic's insistence that they're not looking to move him.

The Paul Pierce trade talk has died down somewhat in Boston, but there's always the possibility the Celtics will decide to move forward without him if the right offer comes along. After all, it almost happened last June when Boston and Portland discussed a deal for a draft pick that would have been used on Chris Paul.

In a league in which players from Wilt Chamberlain to Kareem Abdul-Jabbar to Shaquille O'Neal have been dealt, it's often said that nobody is untradable. Tim Duncan, Yao Ming and LeBron James might want to dispute that theory, but the point is that almost anyone can be traded, and there's never a shortage of teams waiting to pounce when a top-echelon player is put on the block.

Today, ESPN Insider takes a look at several of the league's best players who have been mentioned in trade speculation this season and last season, assessing the plausibility of any of them being traded, including Iverson, Garnett, Marbury, Pierce, Francis, Jermaine O'Neal, Vince Carter, Rashard Lewis, Rasheed Wallace and Kobe Bryant.

Iverson

Allen Iverson
Contract status: Signed through 2008-09, making $18.2, $20.1 and $21.9 million the next three seasons.

Would they move him? In a word, no. When the 76ers acquired Chris Webber and took on the final 3½ seasons of his $79.7 million contract, they locked themselves into taking a three-year shot with the tandem of Webber and Iverson. Webber's contract (he makes $22.3 million in 2007-08, his final season) makes him virtually impossible to move this season or next season, and Philadelphia's management believes there is no hope in trying to contend for the next 2½ seasons with a team built around Webber and the spare parts they could acquire for Iverson.

Pierce

Paul Pierce
Contract status: Signed through 2007-08, making $13.8 million this season and $15.1 and $16.3 the next two.

Would they move him? The Celtics would have moved him in late June in a deal with Portland for Nick Van Exel and the No. 3 pick in the draft, but the deal fell through when the Blazers accepted Utah's offer of the sixth and 27th picks, plus Detroit's first-rounder in 2006. The much-rumored deal with Denver for Nene Hilario and Andre Miller was not as close to happening (as some believed), and Boston's Danny Ainge is now insisting that he plans to build around Pierce and newly acquired Wally Szczerbiak.

KG

Kevin Garnett
Contract status: Signed a $100 million extension through 2008-09, but can opt out of his deal in the summer of 2007.

Would they move him? Only if Garnett approached Timberwolves owner Glen Taylor and made a personal appeal to be relocated. Sources close to the Wolves say Garnett's future in Minnesota is secure for the rest of this season, but it's possible things could change over the summer. New Jersey and Chicago have the pieces to get a deal done, with the Nets having an edge if they'd be willing to trade Richard Jefferson after his base-year compensation status expires July 1.

Francis

Steve Francis
Contract status: Signed through 2008-09, making $13.7 million this season and topping out at $17.8 in his final year.

Would they move him? The Magic have been fielding calls, with Denver the most likely destination if the Magic take back some combination of Andre Miller, Earl Watson and Nene -- or if the Nuggets decide to move Kenyon Martin, who also is being pursued by the Knicks in a deal involving Jamal Crawford. Several multi-team scenarios have been suggested as possibilities, and the Knicks would be willing to take Francis in exchange for Anfernee "Penny" Hardaway and spare change if the Magic desired cap flexibility.

Kobe

Kobe Bryant
Contract status: Signed for $136.4 million through 2010-11, but can opt out in the summer of 2008.

Would they move him? You never say never, but you're tempted to say never here. Year one in his L.A. reunion with Phil Jackson has been devoid of any public rifts, though it's hard to fathom Jackson's continuing to subjugate his ego while Bryant does as he pleases, when he pleases, with Jackson's offense. If Armageddon erupted and one of them had to go, right now it looks like Jackson would be the one shown the door. But he's almost family now around the Buss household, so you never know. It's only one major blowup away from becoming an issue.

Marbury

Stephon Marbury
Contract status: signed through 2008-09, making $16.4 million this season, then $18.3, $20.1 and $21.9 million.

Would they move him? Even if the Knicks wanted to, who'd take him? He's been traded three times, and each of the teams that got rid of him fared better after he left. Marbury has also developed a reputation as a teammate who can be difficult to get along with, meaning the Knicks are likely stuck with him for three more seasons after this one.

O'Neal

Jermaine O'Neal
Contract status: Signed through 2009-10, making $16.4 million this season and topping out at $23 million in his final year.

Would they move him? One major reason the Pacers decided to trade Ron Artest was to placate O'Neal, their franchise player, so it wouldn't seem to make any sense to turn around and trade him, too. It has been suggested that O'Neal's value might never be higher, despite his recent groin tear, but it's hard to fathom Indiana's dealing an All-Star it has installed as its leader.

Carter

Vince Carter
Contract status: Signed through 2007-08, making $13.8 million this season.

Would they move him? If the Nets could get Kevin Garnett, they'd trade him, but they know they don't have a shot at Garnett until this summer at the earliest, and that's also when Richard Jefferson loses his base-year compensation status and can be dangled in front of the Wolves. While Jason Kidd was a subject of trade rumors last season, his contract makes him a bigger long-term financial risk than Carter, because Kidd's contract runs three more seasons at a total of $49 million.

Lewis

Rashard Lewis
Contract status: Signed through 2008-09, but can opt out in the summer of 2007.

Would they move him? Not now, but the SuperSonics might have to consider it a year from now if they're convinced he'll leave as a free agent. Lewis is due to make $10.1 million and $10.9 million in the final two years, but his new contract could total at least four times that amount if he were to go on the open market -- a pretty clear sign he'll exercise that opt-out.

Wallace

Rasheed Wallace
Contract status: Signed through 2008-09, making $10.8 million this season.

Would they move him? Not now, with the way the Pistons are playing and with the way Sheed is such an integral part of their team chemistry. But Wallace is owed nearly $40 million over the final three seasons of his contract, and the law of diminishing returns might necessitate the Pistons' exploring what they can get for him in the summer of 2007.
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djsunyc
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2/7/2006  2:41 PM
Kevin Garnett
Contract status: Signed a $100 million extension through 2008-09, but can opt out of his deal in the summer of 2007.

he's SO going to the lakers...
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2/7/2006  2:53 PM
If the Knicks got under the cap (which they have a chance to do by then end of the '07 season), he may well come here. BUT the Knicks are morons.

[Edited by - Rich on 02-07-2006 2:53 PM]
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2/7/2006  3:07 PM
Posted by Rich:

If the Knicks got under the cap (which they have a chance to do by then end of the '07 season), he may well come here. BUT the Knicks are morons.

[Edited by - Rich on 02-07-2006 2:53 PM]

If we are going to get under the cap we have to trade Marbury, so start putting your energy into thinking up some trades...guess what, nobody wants Marbury so getting under the cap is a pipe dream.
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2/7/2006  3:18 PM
if we can get martin AND francis, we would have the most disgruntled team in nba history, besides maybe the early 2000's blazers.
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2/7/2006  3:27 PM
Can't believe they talk about Marbury having a bad rep and list nothing but negative qualities of Marbury while they don't mention even one negative quality of Steve Francis.
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2/7/2006  3:29 PM
Posted by Bonn1997:

Can't believe they talk about Marbury having a bad rep and list nothing but negative qualities of Marbury while they don't mention even one negative quality of Steve Francis.

yeah, Marbury was totally underfire in NY before he got injured, averaging 23ppg and 10apg in January and turning the team around. he was on his way out any day.
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2/7/2006  3:32 PM
Posted by Knight:
Posted by Rich:

If the Knicks got under the cap (which they have a chance to do by then end of the '07 season), he may well come here. BUT the Knicks are morons.

[Edited by - Rich on 02-07-2006 2:53 PM]

If we are going to get under the cap we have to trade Marbury, so start putting your energy into thinking up some trades...guess what, nobody wants Marbury so getting under the cap is a pipe dream.

If nothing else changes, the Knicks can let the following contracts expire by the end of 2007:

Penny's $16 mil
Rose's $17 mil
Taylor's $10 mil
Anderson's $7 mil
William's $6 mil
Houston's $20 mil

That's $76 million, minus some automatic increases some players get, but it still gives them a realistic chance to pull it off.
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2/7/2006  3:35 PM
You know that has no chance of happening with the moron we have as our GM.
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2/7/2006  3:39 PM
Posted by Rich:

Penny's $16 mil
Rose's $17 mil
Taylor's $10 mil
Anderson's $7 mil
William's $6 mil
Houston's $20 mil

That's $76 million, minus some automatic increases some players get, but it still gives them a realistic chance to pull it off.

in the summer of 2007, our cap # is about $60 mil (no MLE signings) with the following:

steph $20 mil
eddy $10 mil (approximated)
q1 $8.1 mil
craw $8 mil
malik $7 mil
jerome $5.8 mil

with the cap probably going to be around $50 mil, we need to shed more than that to get under. it can be done by either trading steph OR a combo of the others.

this cap situation is SALVAGABLE. we just need to commit to it and a guy smart enough to get it done.

[Edited by - djsunyc on 02-07-2006 3:39 PM]
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2/7/2006  3:44 PM
Posted by djsunyc:
Posted by Rich:

Penny's $16 mil
Rose's $17 mil
Taylor's $10 mil
Anderson's $7 mil
William's $6 mil
Houston's $20 mil

That's $76 million, minus some automatic increases some players get, but it still gives them a realistic chance to pull it off.

in the summer of 2007, our cap # is about $60 mil (no MLE signings) with the following:

steph $20 mil
eddy $10 mil (approximated)
q1 $8.1 mil
craw $8 mil
malik $7 mil
jerome $5.8 mil

with the cap probably going to be around $50 mil, we need to shed more than that to get under. it can be done by either trading steph OR a combo of the others.

this cap situation is SALVAGABLE. we just need to commit to it and a guy smart enough to get it done.

[Edited by - djsunyc on 02-07-2006 3:39 PM]

Malik's contract will be expiring. It should be movable. James's contract could even be tradable by then if loses a few lbs.
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2/7/2006  4:53 PM
Nice breakdown but a bit optimisitic

steph $20 mil
eddy $10 mil (approximated)
q1 $8.1 mil
craw $8 mil
malik $7 mil
jerome $5.8 mil

58.9 mil

Frye, Nate Lee will be on the last year of their rookie deals. And, we will have 2 late 1st Rd picks in 2006 and probably a mid 1st rounder in 07. So add 10-15 million to that figure. Payroll will probably be in the 70-75 million range. And that's without using the MLE, and without extending Ariza.

So, even if by some miracle we were able to move Marbury for a contract that expires in summer 07, we'd still be at 50-55 million, near or close to the cap, but with no space to sign people.

The next year dosen't look much better, but there's some limited potential (see last paragraph) Malik comes off the books, but everyone's annual raise kicks in and Frye, Nate and Lee will be in line for contract extensions or will become RFA's the following year. either way not a lot of cap space if any.

By the time Steph finally comes off the books in summer 2009, Craw and Q1 are pulling in almost 10mil ea, Eddy 12mil, JJ 6.5, etc. Frye, Nate, Lee will be playing on market level deals at that point, either by extensions or signing elsewhere, and the 2006 and 2007 picks will need extending soon as well.

So, it's not just move Marbury or a combo of others. It's move Marbury AND a combo of others (at least 2 of Craw/Eddy/Q1/Jerome), while refraining from any dumb trades or use of the MLE in 2006 and 2007. If we could somehow subtract Marbury, Q1, and Crawford for deals that expire before or in summer 2008 it would be possible. Good luck with that, by the way

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2/7/2006  5:00 PM
Maybe the trick is to trade now for a big-buck guy that expires at the same time. Trade Q and maybe Craw for a 15 mil type player.
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