[ IMAGES: Images ON turn off | ACCOUNT: User Status is LOCKED why? ]

next step before we make any more acquisitions
Author Thread
BRIGGS
Posts: 53275
Alba Posts: 7
Joined: 7/30/2002
Member: #303
2/4/2006  10:21 AM
i hope they figure out a style of play. this would help the balance and chemsitry issues we currently face. this would make it easier to identify what they want in terms of personell instead of throwing darts at guys like jerome big game james.

in the name of good will, im going to give isiah another chance. im wiping the slate clean although I have stored all pertinent info in the memory banks. Right now we dont ned any more neagativity.

but I hope they think of things like chemistry balance toughness fundamentals instead oh head band wearing flash me all frills guys who belong at rucker

i would shut down jerome this year and put him on a massive diet to get him ready for next year--he got his free lottery payment this year--now get back down to 260 and earn atleast 10 minutes off the bench. he needs a vegetarian no fat diet. I dont think the knicks should let him go, they need to be on his arse .
RIP Crushalot😞
AUTOADVERT
Knicksfan
Posts: 33543
Alba Posts: 27
Joined: 7/5/2004
Member: #691
USA
2/4/2006  10:48 AM
Letr try to do that at least before next season. But thats a longshot...
Knicks_Fan
TMS
Posts: 60684
Alba Posts: 617
Joined: 5/11/2004
Member: #674
USA
2/4/2006  11:35 AM
we still need more roster change before they figure out a style of play... this team is lacking shotblockers & tough inside defenders... that's why i say a trade for guys like Ratliff & Ruben P makes sense now that Isiah's chosen to acquire Jalen Rose... those are 2 vets w/warrior mentalities as well... would be a good influence on guys like Stephon, Channing, Crawford & Curry.
After 7 years & 40K+ posts, banned by martin for calling Nalod a 'moron'. Awesome.
crzymdups
Posts: 52018
Alba Posts: 0
Joined: 5/1/2004
Member: #671
USA
2/4/2006  11:41 AM
Isn't style of play partly dependent on the coach? We have a team that clearly excels in the open court and Brown is forcing them into slow it down, grind it out half court sets which leads to most of their turnovers.

I definitely agree there are some mismatched parts on this roster, but Lee, Crawford, Qyntel, Ariza, Nate, Marbury and even Frye seem best suited for a running, open court game. We have a lot of young, quick players, why not pressure the ball up the court more and generate some easy turnovers? It would also take some teams out of their half court sets which we obviously can't stop right now.

I know we need to upgrade the personel. But there's something to be said for maximizing what you have and Brown hasn't.
¿ △ ?
Knight
Posts: 22775
Alba Posts: 2
Joined: 7/21/2005
Member: #968
2/4/2006  11:42 AM
Posted by crzymdups:

Isn't style of play partly dependent on the coach? We have a team that clearly excels in the open court and Brown is forcing them into slow it down, grind it out half court sets which leads to most of their turnovers.

I definitely agree there are some mismatched parts on this roster, but Lee, Crawford, Qyntel, Ariza, Nate, Marbury and even Frye seem best suited for a running, open court game. We have a lot of young, quick players, why not pressure the ball up the court more and generate some easy turnovers? It would also take some teams out of their half court sets which we obviously can't stop right now.

I know we need to upgrade the personel. But there's something to be said for maximizing what you have and Brown hasn't.

Do you know how you run? You get stops at the defensive end and create turnovers.
"He only went to Georgia Tech for one year, and that's an engineering school." -LB
crzymdups
Posts: 52018
Alba Posts: 0
Joined: 5/1/2004
Member: #671
USA
2/4/2006  11:46 AM
Posted by Knight:
Posted by crzymdups:

Isn't style of play partly dependent on the coach? We have a team that clearly excels in the open court and Brown is forcing them into slow it down, grind it out half court sets which leads to most of their turnovers.

I definitely agree there are some mismatched parts on this roster, but Lee, Crawford, Qyntel, Ariza, Nate, Marbury and even Frye seem best suited for a running, open court game. We have a lot of young, quick players, why not pressure the ball up the court more and generate some easy turnovers? It would also take some teams out of their half court sets which we obviously can't stop right now.

I know we need to upgrade the personel. But there's something to be said for maximizing what you have and Brown hasn't.

Do you know how you run? You get stops at the defensive end and create turnovers.

Yes. And one way of creating turnovers is full court pressure. It also helps take teams out of their offense. If Brown is going to play ten guys every night and most of them are young, why not pressure the ball and get some easy points and take time off the shot clock for the opposing team?
¿ △ ?
BasketballJones
Posts: 31973
Alba Posts: 19
Joined: 7/16/2002
Member: #290
USA
2/4/2006  11:54 AM
Posted by crzymdups:

Yes. And one way of creating turnovers is full court pressure. It also helps take teams out of their offense. If Brown is going to play ten guys every night and most of them are young, why not pressure the ball and get some easy points and take time off the shot clock for the opposing team?

Sounds reasonable to me. I also think there's generally some hope for the young guys on defense.

[Edited by - BASKETBALLJONES on 02-04-2006 11:54]
https:// It's not so hard.
Knight
Posts: 22775
Alba Posts: 2
Joined: 7/21/2005
Member: #968
2/4/2006  12:04 PM
Posted by BasketballJones:
Posted by crzymdups:

Yes. And one way of creating turnovers is full court pressure. It also helps take teams out of their offense. If Brown is going to play ten guys every night and most of them are young, why not pressure the ball and get some easy points and take time off the shot clock for the opposing team?

Sounds reasonable to me. I also think there's generally some hope for the young guys on defense.

It's not reasonable, this isn't college, this is a grueling 82 game season in which guys can't expend that kind of energy on a consistent basis. Our rookies are already tired, so making them play some kind of frenetic full court defense is cruel and not a good idea.

[Edited by - Knight on 02-04-2006 12:16 PM]
"He only went to Georgia Tech for one year, and that's an engineering school." -LB
djsunyc
Posts: 44929
Alba Posts: 42
Joined: 1/16/2004
Member: #536
2/4/2006  12:07 PM
the next step probably should've been the first step.
fishmike
Posts: 53902
Alba Posts: 1
Joined: 7/19/2002
Member: #298
USA
2/4/2006  12:15 PM
Posted by djsunyc:

the next step probably should've been the first step.
lol.. bigtime
"winning is more fun... then fun is fun" -Thibs
crzymdups
Posts: 52018
Alba Posts: 0
Joined: 5/1/2004
Member: #671
USA
2/4/2006  12:20 PM
How is this not the coach's job? Didn't Mike D'Antoni do this in PHX? didn't Flip do this in Detroit? How is the coach getting away with saying he can't develop a style of play for this group? That's like saying he can't do his job.
¿ △ ?
BasketballJones
Posts: 31973
Alba Posts: 19
Joined: 7/16/2002
Member: #290
USA
2/4/2006  12:22 PM
Posted by Knight:
Posted by BasketballJones:
Posted by crzymdups:

Yes. And one way of creating turnovers is full court pressure. It also helps take teams out of their offense. If Brown is going to play ten guys every night and most of them are young, why not pressure the ball and get some easy points and take time off the shot clock for the opposing team?

Sounds reasonable to me. I also think there's generally some hope for the young guys on defense.

It's not reasonable, this isn't college, this is a grueling 82 game season in which guys can't expend that kind of energy on a consistent basis. Our rookies are already tired, so making them play some kind of frenetic full court defense is cruel and not a good idea.

[Edited by - Knight on 02-04-2006 12:16 PM]

I'm the first to say I'm no expert. But looking at the box score, Frye, Robinson, Ariza and Lee all played 22 minutes or less, so it's not like they're playing the whole game. I don't think you'd use pressure all the time - just at particular points in the game, and they're young so it sure seems like something they could do.


[Edited by - BASKETBALLJONES on 02-04-2006 12:23]
https:// It's not so hard.
Knight
Posts: 22775
Alba Posts: 2
Joined: 7/21/2005
Member: #968
2/4/2006  12:22 PM
Posted by crzymdups:

How is this not the coach's job? Didn't Mike D'Antoni do this in PHX? didn't Flip do this in Detroit? How is the coach getting away with saying he can't develop a style of play for this group? That's like saying he can't do his job.

He is trying to develop a style of play for this group and it's called effort and a commitment to defense and not turning the ball over. If they can't do that I'm not blaming the coach because that's the style of play I want to see from a Knicks team.
"He only went to Georgia Tech for one year, and that's an engineering school." -LB
next step before we make any more acquisitions

©2001-2025 ultimateknicks.comm All rights reserved. About Us.
This site is not affiliated with the NY Knicks or the National Basketball Association in any way.
You may visit the official NY Knicks web site by clicking here.

All times (GMT-05:00) Eastern Time.

Terms of Use and Privacy Policy