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TMS
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2/3/2006  4:30 PM
Penny, Q Rich, Malik, Ariza & SA's 1st round pick to POR for D Miles, Ratliff, Ruben P & Jarrett Jack

C - Curry / Ratliff
PF - Frye / Mo T / Lee
SF - Miles / Ruben P / Q Woods
SG - J Rose / Crawford
PG - Marbury / Jack
IR - JJ / Butler / Nate

[Edited by - TMS on 02-03-2006 4:33 PM]
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2/3/2006  4:32 PM
This is not bad but I'd rather get a quick, young PF for Penny. If there's any way we could get a guy like Stro, Eddie Griffin, Ty Chandler by taking back a bad salary, I'd rather do that.
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2/3/2006  4:38 PM
All four of those players that we would get play great on the ball defense. I like the trade although I don't think you can dump both malik and q rich on a team that's trying to rebuild.
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2/3/2006  4:38 PM
Stro, Griffin and Chandler aren't available.

We have a young quick PF. his name is David Lee.

The idea of Miles intrigues me. If we could get him, it's ALMOST worth taking back Theo. I have a feeling we'll get Theo and Ruben for Penny and nothing else though.
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2/3/2006  4:39 PM
if we are getting 2 for 1, we will have to cut someone
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2/3/2006  4:40 PM
Posted by jaydh:

if we are getting 2 for 1, we will have to cut someone

Buy out Jerome James or Malik.
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2/3/2006  4:41 PM
Posted by Mac:

All four of those players that we would get play great on the ball defense. I like the trade although I don't think you can dump both malik and q rich on a team that's trying to rebuild.


the trade would get them good cap relief over the life of all the contracts though... plus they get a 1st round pick along w/2 young players... they might not be crazy about the idea of including Jack, but i think they're trying to unload Miles' contract.
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2/3/2006  4:41 PM
hopefully the AD-Rose trade means we can move either Qrich or JC
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2/3/2006  9:45 PM
With Rose here JC may feel less pressure and can hopefully settle down some. I still think QRich should go. He can be great somewhere else. He just isn't the right fit here.
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2/3/2006  10:00 PM
now we should trade Malik+QRich+JJ+SA 1st+Denver 1st for Hill or KVH. that way for the 07/08 season we will actually be under the cap.
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2/3/2006  10:03 PM
If you can get that done you should be hired by the Knicks right away.
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2/3/2006  10:04 PM
Posted by TemujinKnick:

If you can get that done you should be hired by the Knicks right away.

i wish, got no ties in basketball, now baseball thats another story.
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2/3/2006  10:29 PM
Posted by TMS:

Penny, Q Rich, Malik, Ariza & SA's 1st round pick to POR for D Miles, Ratliff, Ruben P & Jarrett Jack

C - Curry / Ratliff
PF - Frye / Mo T / Lee
SF - Miles / Ruben P / Q Woods
SG - J Rose / Crawford
PG - Marbury / Jack
IR - JJ / Butler / Nate

[Edited by - TMS on 02-03-2006 4:33 PM]

I think that is a very good trade for us, it would push back the cap flexibility deadline back one season but depending on who the FA's of 07 are that may not necesarily be a bad thing, but Im not sure if portland would do it, malik and qrich have terrible contracts and I dont think portland would take them even to get rid of theo's contract and aquire a late draft pick.

[Edited by - slimpack on 02-03-2006 10:29 PM]
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2/3/2006  10:38 PM
Is Lebron 07 or 08?
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2/3/2006  10:47 PM
Posted by TemujinKnick:

Is Lebron 07 or 08?

lebron could become a FA in 07/08, but i would be very surprised if they dont give him a longterm extension by the beginning of next season.
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2/4/2006  11:23 AM
Posted by SlimPack:

I think that is a very good trade for us, it would push back the cap flexibility deadline back one season but depending on who the FA's of 07 are that may not necesarily be a bad thing, but Im not sure if portland would do it, malik and qrich have terrible contracts and I dont think portland would take them even to get rid of theo's contract and aquire a late draft pick.


thing is, every player we'd be getting back have even worse contracts (except for Jack)... the trade actually nets the Blazers at least $36 million in longterm cap savings if you count the luxury tax, assuming they choose to resign Ariza next year as a FA... if they don't, it nets them even more... & they get another 1st round pick on top... the Knicks just paid $30 million dollars to buy DEN's pick essentially in the Jalen Rose deal... that's almost like giving POR 2 extra 1st round picks along w/better cap flexibility to make this deal, for players that they don't necessarily want to hold onto going forward anyway... i think it's a good trade for them as well... the only player they probably don't want to give up is Jarrett Jack understandably, but they can easily pick up a backup PG with the extra draft pick.
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2/4/2006  11:51 AM
another trade that makes sense from an LB standpoint:

Mo T & Ariza for Eric Snow, Ira Newble & CLE's 1st rd. pick

CLE needs a more physical presence down low along w/longterm cap savings... Mo T would be a nice complement to Big Z in the post... the Knicks get the backup PG LB covets, along w/a good defender in Newble who can probably pick up LB's system alot quicker than Ariza's been able to, along w/another 1st round pick to build towards the future.
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2/4/2006  12:12 PM
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