forget salaries and all that jazz, would you trade channing frye for sam dalembert?

yes

yes

probably. I would have traded the #8 pick for him. I haven't seen him much THIS YEAR but he's putting up monster defensive #s.

sam was drafted #26 overall in 2001.
curry was drafted #6 overall in 2001.

before the summer started, of all the centers available, i wanted sam the most. why? b/c he can board, block shots, change the game on the defensive end...things we didn't have. he put up MONSTER rebounding and block shot #'s vs. the pistons in the playoffs. that told me alot.

but he needs an offensive PF to make that frontcourt complete.

curry had bigger issues in terms of weight, work ethic, and health. and it looks like curry needs a defensive minded PF to make our frontcourt complete.

If you did this trade, would you start both Curry and Dalembert? Who would matchup with the quick PFs?

Posted by Bonn1997:

If you did this trade, would you start both Curry and Dalembert? Who would matchup with the quick PFs?

lol.. who guards them now?

Posted by Allanfan20:

Posted by Pharzeone:

Posted by Allanfan20:

probably. I would have traded the #8 pick for him. I haven't seen him much THIS YEAR but he's putting up monster defensive #s.

I agree with that trading the pick for him and that's a maybe. To me like I mentioned Dalembert is somewhat of a disappointement. I don't think his defensive numbers are that great. I watched him this season. He will have one outstanding defensive game and be a near a non-factor the next. I think it has to do with some of his rust. He seems to be putting up solid back to back games, now. Maybe the presence of Webber hurts a little. I expect more than 10 boards a game from him. His blocks per game is great but he is not the defensive stopper that Mutombo (the guy he compared himself too during the 2001 draft).

He's like 23, 24. Only 1 year, I believe of college bball. last year, he averaged about 7, 8 boards a game, and couldn't always stay in games. This year, he's averaging 10, 11 and friggin' 4 or 5 blocks a game. He's improving dramatically and in a couple of years, he'll be right up there with Ben Wallace and a healthy Marcus Camby. He's raw on the offense, but Big Ben is 30 and he still misses wide open layups (See the game against the Knicks). Camby finally just this year, developed some offensive firepower THIS SEASON. But they are still great players. Give me Sammy D with Larry Brown anyday please. I would greatly appreciate it.

I think he is 24 or 25, he has 2 years of college experience. I had him being the next Mutombo, so I am a little down on him. Same with Griffin. I was very high on the Seton Hall team. I didn't see him as being that much of a wait in progress but not bad where he was drafted. Camby is a nice comparison but not Wallace. I don't like Dalembert man to man defense. He is a great weak side blocker. But against strong NBA centers, or PFs he has some trouble with. I would hate to see Dalembert develop a true offense game after ten years in the league. That's why I am not so thrill with Camby's arrival. It just more indicates what a wasted career. Like I said though I would take Dalembert if he was paired up with Frye.

Posted by Pharzeone:

Posted by Allanfan20:

Posted by Pharzeone:

Posted by Allanfan20:

probably. I would have traded the #8 pick for him. I haven't seen him much THIS YEAR but he's putting up monster defensive #s.

I agree with that trading the pick for him and that's a maybe. To me like I mentioned Dalembert is somewhat of a disappointement. I don't think his defensive numbers are that great. I watched him this season. He will have one outstanding defensive game and be a near a non-factor the next. I think it has to do with some of his rust. He seems to be putting up solid back to back games, now. Maybe the presence of Webber hurts a little. I expect more than 10 boards a game from him. His blocks per game is great but he is not the defensive stopper that Mutombo (the guy he compared himself too during the 2001 draft).

He's like 23, 24. Only 1 year, I believe of college bball. last year, he averaged about 7, 8 boards a game, and couldn't always stay in games. This year, he's averaging 10, 11 and friggin' 4 or 5 blocks a game. He's improving dramatically and in a couple of years, he'll be right up there with Ben Wallace and a healthy Marcus Camby. He's raw on the offense, but Big Ben is 30 and he still misses wide open layups (See the game against the Knicks). Camby finally just this year, developed some offensive firepower THIS SEASON. But they are still great players. Give me Sammy D with Larry Brown anyday please. I would greatly appreciate it.

I think he is 24 or 25, he has 2 years of college experience. I had him being the next Mutombo, so I am a little down on him. Same with Griffin. I was very high on the Seton Hall team. I didn't see him as being that much of a wait in progress but not bad where he was drafted. Camby is a nice comparison but not Wallace. I don't like Dalembert man to man defense. He is a great weak side blocker. But against strong NBA centers, or PFs he has some trouble with. I would hate to see Dalembert develop a true offense game after ten years in the league. That's why I am not so thrill with Camby's arrival. It just more indicates what a wasted career. Like I said though I would take Dalembert if he was paired up with Frye.

This is where yours and my opinion differ. I don't think Camby, in terms of his game, has been a dissapointment in any way, shape or form, besides all of the injuries. He has reached his potential. He's a gifted defensive player and he was never great man to man until he had a few years of KNICKS experience on him. That means he was about 27 when he started becoming an overall good defensive player. Phar, it takes most NBA players A LOOOONG TIME to really learn to play good overall NBA defense. Sammy is mastering the help, hustle and weakside blocks. I'm pretty confident that with his body strength and agility (B/c he is pretty agile) he'll soon become a very good man to man defender. Currently, the Big Ben comparisions are actually more fair than Camby, b/c Camby has added some offensive punch, like I said before, to his game. Big Ben hasn't, besides maybe a nice move or a J once every 4 or so games. Dalembert will get there, and I'm sure eventually he'll have a couple of low post moves and a little baseline 10 foot J. But for now, a big man who grabs 11 and blocks 4 or 5 a game is not dissapointing.

that's still outstanding

Posted by franco12:

I don't think I trade Frye for Dalembert because while he is an excellent player, he is somewhat one dimensional (blocks & boards) like a camby- I still think Frye can improve his D & boards and be an offensive threat.

I think if you want the next Dalembert or Ben Wallace, there to be found out there in the D League, overseas and late in the first round.

I think the next Frye is not so easy to find in those same places...

I more or less was gonna make this point. Its easier to teach a big to play like Sam, than it is tot each a big to play like Frye. Tough choice though, and that would leave us with 3 centers.