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1/26/2006  4:33 PM
K-Mart is 1 player who i think would have a major & immediate impact on the Knicks if he ever came here (whether he'd be healthy or not, you have to hold your breath on that one)... i think his trade value is at an alltime low... would DEN ever consider this?:

AD, Ariza & Butler for K-Mart & E. Watson

that gets DEN huge cap relief... they'd be able to target a max contract FA next season if they made that trade.


follow that up w:

Penny & 2nd rd. pick for Ratliff & Ruben Patterson


You then have a very good defensive oriented team... perfect for Larry Brown's system, & a team that can run the floor & play uptempo as well if needed, which should bring up the level of play for players like Q. Rich, Qyntel Woods, Nate Robinson & Jamal Crawford.


C - Curry / Ratliff
PF - K-Mart / Frye
SF - Patterson / Lee / Woods
SG - Q Rich / Craw / Nate
PG - Marbury / Watson
IR - JJ / Malik / Mo T
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1/26/2006  5:52 PM
K-Mart's got terrible knees. He has chronic arthritis. That doesn't get better. I'd pass on him. At the time it looked like a bad deal, but the Nets really knew what they were doing when they got a few 1st rd picks for him instead of giving him a 90 mil contract.

[Edited by - Bonn1997 on 01-26-2006 5:53 PM]
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1/26/2006  7:41 PM
Posted by Bonn1997:

K-Mart's got terrible knees. He has chronic arthritis. That doesn't get better. I'd pass on him. At the time it looked like a bad deal, but the Nets really knew what they were doing when they got a few 1st rd picks for him instead of giving him a 90 mil contract.

[Edited by - Bonn1997 on 01-26-2006 5:53 PM]


Nets traded K-mart for Vince. A steal!
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1/26/2006  8:04 PM
Posted by Bonn1997:

K-Mart's got terrible knees. He has chronic arthritis. That doesn't get better. I'd pass on him. At the time it looked like a bad deal, but the Nets really knew what they were doing when they got a few 1st rd picks for him instead of giving him a 90 mil contract.

[Edited by - Bonn1997 on 01-26-2006 5:53 PM]

K-Mart was never worth 90 million and if I knew it, Kiki should've. Jason Kidd could take one of those kids from the AND 1 team and make them look like a legit NBA player. You don't pay 90 million for hops and defense unless it comes in a 6-11 package.
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1/26/2006  8:36 PM
Kenyon Martin(OT)or Kidd should never wear a Knick Jersey.
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1/26/2006  9:01 PM
Posted by mikesknicks:

Kenyon Martin(OT)or Kidd should never wear a Knick Jersey.


the only players who should never wear a Knick jersey are players like Tim Thomas... guys w/no heart whatsoever... i'd trade away every player on this team for K-Mart & Kidd if i had to.
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1/27/2006  12:12 AM
Kidd's a good player. K-Mart doesn't have it anymore and was probably overrated to begin with. Besides they both dissed us over and over It would almost be as bad as having Reggie Miller or Tim Hardaway on the team back in the day.
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Posted by mikesknicks:

Kenyon Martin(OT)or Kidd should never wear a Knick Jersey.


the only players who should never wear a Knick jersey are players like Tim Thomas... guys w/no heart whatsoever... i'd trade away every player on this team for K-Mart & Kidd if i had to.
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1/27/2006  9:44 AM
Kidd's a good player. K-Mart doesn't have it anymore and was probably overrated to begin with. Besides they both dissed us over and over It would almost be as bad as having Reggie Miller or Tim Hardaway on the team back in the day.

That's exactly my point these two Disrepected the whole New York metro area the past two/three years. They should never wear Knick Uni's.
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1/27/2006  9:47 AM
Posted by mikesknicks:

Kenyon Martin(OT)or Kidd should never wear a Knick Jersey.


Health aside and looking back, after what Kenyon did to TT, I don't think there is anyone better to represent knicks fans on the court...
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1/27/2006  10:11 AM
Health aside and looking back, after what Kenyon did to TT, I don't think there is anyone better to represent knicks fans on the court...

No-way these cornballs represent the NY I know.
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1/27/2006  10:45 AM
Posted by mikesknicks:
Kidd's a good player. K-Mart doesn't have it anymore and was probably overrated to begin with. Besides they both dissed us over and over It would almost be as bad as having Reggie Miller or Tim Hardaway on the team back in the day.

That's exactly my point these two Disrepected the whole New York metro area the past two/three years. They should never wear Knick Uni's.

i guess Michael Jordan should have never worn a Knicks uniform either if it were up to you using that type of logic... this game is all about "competition"... just because guys like Reggie & Hardaway killed the Knicks many times over their careers doesn't mean they wouldn't have made great Knicks if they played here... for me, i only care about the Knicks being the best team they can be... screw whoever "dissed us" in the past... it's about W's.



[Edited by - TMS on 01-27-2006 10:45 AM]
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1/27/2006  11:50 AM
i guess Michael Jordan should have never worn a Knicks uniform either if it were up to you using that type of logic... this game is all about "competition"... just because guys like Reggie & Hardaway killed the Knicks many times over their careers doesn't mean they wouldn't have made great Knicks if they played here... for me, i only care about the Knicks being the best team they can be... screw whoever "dissed us" in the past... it's about W's.

That is way there is no more great rivalries left in the NBA W are important but not the most important just ask the Suns and Mavs. Michael Jordan never diss the city of New York he called it the Mecca.
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1/27/2006  12:30 PM
The thing is that I don't think K-mart would help in the W dept. Look at how he's doing this season not how he was w/ the NEts.
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Posted by mikesknicks:
Kidd's a good player. K-Mart doesn't have it anymore and was probably overrated to begin with. Besides they both dissed us over and over It would almost be as bad as having Reggie Miller or Tim Hardaway on the team back in the day.

That's exactly my point these two Disrepected the whole New York metro area the past two/three years. They should never wear Knick Uni's.

i guess Michael Jordan should have never worn a Knicks uniform either if it were up to you using that type of logic... this game is all about "competition"... just because guys like Reggie & Hardaway killed the Knicks many times over their careers doesn't mean they wouldn't have made great Knicks if they played here... for me, i only care about the Knicks being the best team they can be... screw whoever "dissed us" in the past... it's about W's.



[Edited by - TMS on 01-27-2006 10:45 AM]
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1/27/2006  12:48 PM
Posted by mikesknicks:
Health aside and looking back, after what Kenyon did to TT, I don't think there is anyone better to represent knicks fans on the court...

No-way these cornballs represent the NY I know.

I was actually referring to just about any NY fan wanting to floor TT after the way he played here.
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1/27/2006  2:29 PM
The thing is that I don't think K-mart would help in the W dept. Look at how he's doing this season not how he was w/ the NEts.
I agree. I don't think the deterioration of his game is so simple as being due to not having Kidd. Kidd no doubt improved his game but I think he would still be a very good PF if his knees weren't falling apart.
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1/27/2006  2:33 PM
Posted by nykshaknbake:

The thing is that I don't think K-mart would help in the W dept. Look at how he's doing this season not how he was w/ the NEts.

that's a valid concern i agree... it's a big gamble... Scott Layden took a huge risk when he traded Camby, etc. for McDyess, & it backfired bigtime... i happen to think K-Mart can still come back, but i obviously can't say that for sure... i think a move needs to be made, either to go 1 way or the other... are we going to try & contend now, or are we going to try & accumulate picks so we can rebuild? i want to see a definite direction taken with this team... enough w/the riding the fence stuff.
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1/27/2006  2:39 PM
I'd take a gamble on healthy players, not ones with bad knees. This is a gamble, but it's a bad one.
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1/27/2006  3:59 PM
I like Reggie Evans--and the man has been pushed to the bench these days anyway.
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1/27/2006  4:19 PM
i'm trying to concentrate on players who actually have a chance of making a noticeable impact on this team... Reggie Evans is just another role player that we have plenty of already.
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