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Bippity10
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1/26/2006  1:35 PM
I've been to all of the Uconn home games this year including last night. After watching last nights game and seeing him get manhandled for 35 of the 40 minutes I have to ask one question: Is Josh Boone really a lottery talent? Shouldn't four years at Uconn be a definite at this point?
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1/26/2006  2:31 PM
i went to uconn from 2001-2005 so i got to see this kid play a lot. his freshman year he seemed like by the time he went to the draft he'd be a lottery talent no doubt. watching him this year and part of last year though it just seems like his offensive game has decreased terribly and while he can still get some blocked shots and rebounds, even those seem down. as well as uconns been playing i think a lot of the guys (hilton, rudy, josh) are being predicted to go way higher than they deserve in the draft.
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1/26/2006  3:07 PM
To me, Josh Boone and Chris Tafts college careers are very similar. Both Taft and Boone were standout freshmen 3 years ago and had scouts raving about their potential. Then the sophmore season comes and both of them play pretty well well first half but then in the second half and during conference and NCAA tourney time, they both show GLARING weaknesses. I really like Josh as a defensive player but I think the offense he displayed his freshman year was more of the Emeka Okafor effect and got many of his points from the simple fact of playing next to a standout big man like Emeka. Josh REALLY has to work on his offense and 4 years should be an absolute definate. I think he wants to stay 4 years anyway, he's a pretty estute student.

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1/26/2006  7:45 PM
Posted by Bippity10:

I've been to all of the Uconn home games this year including last night. After watching last nights game and seeing him get manhandled for 35 of the 40 minutes I have to ask one question: Is Josh Boone really a lottery talent? Shouldn't four years at Uconn be a definite at this point?

Getting manhandled by who? Josh and Hilton are premiere big men defenders. Josh was a lottery pick at one point. Im sure he wouldve gone top 14 last year. i think he's a first round pick as is Hilton anytime he wants to come out. He still is 6-10 1/2 240 with a 7-6 wingspan, agility, speed and brains with a nose for the ball and a great touch at the basket. Why do you think uconn is 17-1 ranked #1 leads the NCAA in block shots FG% defense top 10 in points allowed? How about the frontline defense of Gay Armstrong and Boone. DEFENSE its a defensive +rebounding team--thats why these guys are under rated a little bit. I think Armstrong is the defensive player of the year myself, but because thats not a fancy thing, it does not stick out at you. They are kind of like the Pistons, no one superstar but a collective team effort on both ends with some smart players who care.
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1/27/2006  10:20 AM
Now, the original question had nothing to do with Hilton or Rudy Gay so not sure why they came up. It had to do with Josh. Boone is a great shot blocker and a solid reboudner. Again that was not the question. The question was, is he a lottery pick? And should he stay four years?

Now Briggs since you are as big a Uconn fan as I am, and you pay almost as much attention to defense as I do I shall ask you to stay on topic and answer my question. This is not a respect issue, nobody on Uconn is underrated or needs respect, so get off that, and answer the question if you wish.
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1/27/2006  10:21 AM
Oh and as for who manhandled him? Don't just watch the shotblocking, watch the action in the paint. Study it, watch nothing else. Scout him. That's what I do.
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1/27/2006  10:28 AM
Posted by Bippity10:

Oh and as for who manhandled him? Don't just watch the shotblocking, watch the action in the paint. Study it, watch nothing else. Scout him. That's what I do.

You have to be kidding me
Josh was the DPOY of the BE last year
Teams are shooting 35% against Uconn.
The guys mainly responsible for this are josh and hilton. why do you think the spurs like shot blocking? shot blocking and lane intimidation are keys to winning games josh and hilton are big athletic long armed post players that anchor the defense. I watch the defense as a whole unit and those guys are great.


so much for what isiah knows as well--like when he states shot blocking is over-rated. he likes the flash dribble guys who wear headbands
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1/27/2006  10:33 AM
Briggs why do you have such a hard time answering the question? I don't dislike Josh. I'm glad he's on my team. Why are you over-reacting to such a simple question? Is he a lottery pick and should he stay 4 years. Take a deep breath and answer the question as an unbiased fan.
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1/27/2006  12:36 PM
sorry my opinion was probably a bit biased...i pretty much HATE hilton armstrong and really would be ridiculously pissed if the knicks got him...goes back to him getting playing time over my boy marcus white whos now at purdue dropping about 17 a game the last 5 game. if anybody watched uconn games a few yrs ago i was the founder/president of the marcus white fan club.
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1/27/2006  2:46 PM
I segue:

A little while a go some people around here were talking about Marcus Williams and could he end up on the Knicks? Did anyone see how Eugene Lawrence played against him the other night? Lawrence got nice!

Lawrence is a good prospect for the pros. He just needs to get his jumshot in order because physically he is strong enough and fast enogh, his handle is nasty, his defense is tremendous especially considering his youth, he rebounds incredibly for a PG (6.8 per game) and he is a good passer. Keep your eye on him.

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1/27/2006  3:35 PM
I love Josh Boone. He hasn't progressed like I thought he would, but he'll still be a very good defender in the league.
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1/27/2006  3:42 PM
Posted by oohah:

I segue:

A little while a go some people around here were talking about Marcus Williams and could he end up on the Knicks? Did anyone see how Eugene Lawrence played against him the other night? Lawrence got nice!

Lawrence is a good prospect for the pros. He just needs to get his jumshot in order because physically he is strong enough and fast enogh, his handle is nasty, his defense is tremendous especially considering his youth, he rebounds incredibly for a PG (6.8 per game) and he is a good passer. Keep your eye on him.

oohah

Good call oohah. Lawrence is a better prospect than Daryl Hill at this point.

Boone was simply underrated as an incomming freshman, now he's overrated after opening some eyes as a freshman. People expected him to make a major jump after his freshman year and improve but he's still the same player. Good rebounder, shotblocker and help defender. Plain and simple, he's a role player. The type player that you hardly notice on the court but can help a good team win.
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Posted by oohah:

I segue:

A little while a go some people around here were talking about Marcus Williams and could he end up on the Knicks? Did anyone see how Eugene Lawrence played against him the other night? Lawrence got nice!

Lawrence is a good prospect for the pros. He just needs to get his jumshot in order because physically he is strong enough and fast enogh, his handle is nasty, his defense is tremendous especially considering his youth, he rebounds incredibly for a PG (6.8 per game) and he is a good passer. Keep your eye on him.

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He did physically manhandle him a bit. So did Dominic Jones from Marquette. Marcus has been sick all year, he is playing with mono. He's still is trying to get his legs under him--remember no pre-season and the guys are 14 games into it when he came back--- He's maybe 75-80%.

Marcus has a lot of Marc Jackson in his game--a version of Marc Jackson. He's not as athletic as youd like him to be and he needs to continue to work on his shot, but you have to like the size, the IQ, the way he controls tempo--the way he pushes the ball, the ease in which he gets into the lane, see's the floor--he really is the best fundamental PG in CBB. Id like to see him and Josh stay their 4th years. Josh is more of an NBA role player right now, but he has a LOT of qualities that NBA guys like. He's agile athletic smart runs the floor like a deer for a big man,has a nose for the ball and a nice touch around the basket. He also has a 7-5 wingspan at 6-10 1/2, so he plays long. Hilton and Josh both need advanced footwork skills and refined post games. Hilton will be a steal. Kid is a HARD worker, just turned 21--has good touch, hes an unbelievable defender and a great athlete with an nBA body at 6-11 250+ he also needs refined footwork, but this kid has a LOT of upside to his game. Many times at uconn practices, Hilton is the best player. he is just scratching what he can do---hes a late bloomer.
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1/27/2006  4:12 PM
Marcus has a lot of Marc Jackson in his game--a version of Marc Jackson. He's not as athletic as youd like him to be and he needs to continue to work on his shot, but you have to like the size, the IQ, the way he controls tempo--the way he pushes the ball, the ease in which he gets into the lane, see's the floor--he really is the best fundamental PG in CBB. Id like to see him and Josh stay their 4th years. Josh is more of an NBA role player right now, but he has a LOT of qualities that NBA guys like. He's agile athletic smart runs the floor like a deer for a big man,has a nose for the ball and a nice touch around the basket. He also has a 7-5 wingspan at 6-10 1/2, so he plays long. Hilton and Josh both need advanced footwork skills and refined post games. Hilton will be a steal. Kid is a HARD worker, just turned 21--has good touch, hes an unbelievable defender and a great athlete with an nBA body at 6-11 250+ he also needs refined footwork, but this kid has a LOT of upside to his game. Many times at uconn practices, Hilton is the best player. he is just scratching what he can do---hes a late bloomer.


I kind of see your point but....Mark Jackson was a muuuuuch better player in college than Williams: He set a record for freshman assists, led the nation in assists at 9.11 as a senior while averaging 19 per game. As I recall, he also led the Big East in 3 point percentage and made the all defensive team (!). In other words, he was an All-American.

I really don't see Williams as a solid pro, but maybe you have seen him more frequently than I have, I am a SJU man myself. And is Williams really a big PG? He looked about 6 foot to me. Honestly he kind of reminds me of Khalid El-Amin.

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1/28/2006  12:58 PM
Marcus is about 6-3 and is pretty sturdy for his size but I do think Lawrence shoved him around a little bit the other night. But don't use that night to form your opinion of Marcus he is definitely getting his sea legs under him and is going to be a pretty solid pro. He could be the headiest PG in college basketball and is offensive skills are drastically underrated. He'll be fine and impressive as he plays more this season. That being said I was impressed with Lawrence he had Marcus frustrated from the beginning.

Josh doesn't seem to have developed a whole lot to his game. He is a good defender, long good instincts but I would think he would have to be able to do a little more to be a lottery pick. I think four years and some strength and offensive development is imperative for him. The big guy for St Johns(Spears I think) looked like a man next to him in the paint. Josh was just pushed around.

If I'm a GM I'm probably taking Hilton over Josh at this point. I think he works harder, is more aggressive, is mentally tougher and just plays harder.
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