To me that's not exuding high character. If you look back at his career post basketball, he seems to always make excuses for his shortcomings--- yet at the first sign of a positive, he is smiling in the camera. Doesn't it speak to a man's character if he hides when the going gets tough? Does it speak to a man's character the inability to admit mistakes? How does this make him a leader of the franchise?

I remember when he first came on board and he stated that he wouldn't tolerate a particular brand of basketball. Why doesn't he come to the media and speak out on Crawford and the team for not hustling back on that play against NO? The inability of the team to play tough, to defend their man with pride--give 110%? I don't think he wants to speak out because it will not shine brightly on players he acquired. That is not the trait of a good leader with high character, its the trait of a frontrunner who hides when the going gets tough.

So this critiscm that he has taken, that he believes is personal--isn't some of this stuff very realistic? Calling out some of his past faults and decision making into question--he responds by threatning some sportswriter--again very low character trait?

Maybe he should consider selling popcorn full time if he cant stand up like a man and own up.

No one here is against Isiah. We want him to succeed here, but he has failed miserably with holding his own pride above good judgement and leadership abilities.

[Edited by - BRIGGS on 01-23-2006 9:54 PM]

couldn't agree more briggs, awaiting the pro-isiah response from bonn, who will no doubt talk about the merits of the 5 year contract given to jerome james

He handpicked or traded for these guys for their talents and skills, and gave them a top quality coach to make them better, but they are not getting it done. IS it his fault?.

You answered your own question. He HANDPICKED the players who are not hustling, not performing and frequently getting blown out while playing putrid basketball--embarassing basketball. Yes, I think he should say something. he ALWAYS is in the camera when ANYTHING positive happens--where is he when the ship be sinkin?

Posted by BRIGGS:

To me that's not exuding high character. If you look back at his career post basketball, he seems to always make excuses for his shortcomings--- yet at the first sign of a positive, he is smiling in the camera. Doesn't it speak to a man's character if he hides when the going gets tough? Does it speak to a man's character the inability to admit mistakes? How does this make him a leader of the franchise?

I remember when he first came on board and he stated that he wouldn't tolerate a particular brand of basketball. Why doesn't he come to the media and speak out on Crawford and the team for not hustling back on that play against NO? The inability of the team to play tough, to defend their man with pride--give 110%? I don't think he wants to speak out because it will not shine brightly on players he acquired. That is not the trait of a good leader with high character, its the trait of a frontrunner who hides when the going gets tough.

So this critiscm that he has taken, that he believes is personal--isn't some of this stuff very realistic? Calling out some of his past faults and decision making into question--he responds by threatning some sportswriter--again very low character trait?

Maybe he should consider selling popcorn full time if he cant stand up like a man and own up.

No one here is against Isiah. We want him to succeed here, but he has failed miserably with holding his own pride above good judgement and leadership abilities.

[Edited by - BRIGGS on 01-23-2006 9:54 PM]

Briggy,

This is larrys team! To speak out would undermine Larry. Larry has at times been critical of certain players and done so in the media. Isiah can speak to other issues, but get real about this.

The record speaks for itself and Isiah is getting plenty of heat. I do agree he should be visiable and defend the direction of the team, defend Larry's methoed, and explain that we are sticking with the youth and this is what it takes to build a team from within.

We blast him for trading, we blast him for panic moves, and yet we plead at the same time for him to make a trade?

Im not happy, but lets realize the grass is not always greener with new players. We can't trade pieces when they are low and get the rising mike james and pay dearly. Buying high and selling low gets you no where!

Blame, fault, a witch hunt and a hanging? Declare failure after 41 games and blow it up?

I don't see much how to get out of this then to ride it out for while and hope for the best. The team has shown flashes of competence and can be progressing in time.

Its getting very old over the years watching our franchise be dismal and false hopes crash once again.

it's not like Isiah was crowing after every win during the winning streak. what's he supposed to say, "wait til Marbury comes back and by the way, no, Briggs, I'm not blowing it all up."?

Isiah will land Kevin Garnett in a blockbuster that will quiet the haters.

You heard it here first

I don't want Garnett.

Posted by misterearl:

>Does it speak to a man's character the inability to admit mistakes?

Like telling the truth about Larry Bird?

Ooh this sounds interesting. Which truth are you referring to?

Posted by misterearl:

Isiah will land Kevin Garnett in a blockbuster that will quiet the haters.

You heard it here first

Well, I don't know about KG, but let me say something about the hater part. There are some pure haters of people no matter what they do, thats just life.

There are other people who care about their teams passionately. You have fans with deep ties to the team for 20-30-40 years. Its part of who you are. So, with that being said, people will be more protective and tough when it comes to their teams. So when the guy that you have to put your trust into collects players who will likely be with the team for a lONg time that dont put out 110% effort and look awful doing so[for the majority of games]then there will be backlash. On top of it, I dont really want out leader threatning some reporter on MLK day. Thats not what that day is about, its the exact opposite, an our leader and showed many times its all about HIM. Now is that a leader? I don't know wtf happened with this lady--im sure that it will get swept under the rug, but as knick fans, we ask for all the money we have spent--right much more than most clubs--- players who will play hard and smart and dECISIONS made by mamangement to make sense. If Jamal Crawford gives the ball away in the halfcourt and sits and watches his man go down and redicule our team--where is the leaders to say this is unnacceptable. Isiah did that when he came here and now that we have played like crp, he says nothing--primarily because its HIS guys. Im not expecting a winner--just a cogent plan and I dont think aquiring Malik rose Taylor Jerome James and Q-rich is a cogent plan--not to mention all the money and long term years that they all have. We got lucky with Curry, but we also hurt ourselves by not negotiating smarter. Just minimal protection without the swappy thing, adn i wouldnt say a word, just some sort of insurance. I think its a reasonable scenario given that no one wanted Curry for 0 compensation in the FA market. We have a lot of inconsistent players sans Marbury and many of them play defense like its a bothersome act. Is it to much to ask guys to pick up and idnetify their man in the halfcourt and run back down the court when you make a bazillion $ to do so?

OK