Posted by crzymdups:

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Posted by Nalod:

Even if allans contract was 30 mil less, we still way over the cap unless we let Ewing walk.

Allans contract is overrated to our demise.

Ewing trade for Rice and beans was our downfall.

Hell, we gave Shandon 20 million to walk. Thats phuched up!

allan would have been tradable if he wasnt maxed out, thats all i was saying.

The biggest offer on the table was $50mm from Chicago. All the Knicks had to do was give him $60 but they gave him $100. Houston loves NY he wouldn't leave to go to play on the TerriBULLS which at the time they were

i thought the pistons(the team that drafted him) offered him a $60-sumthing mil contract.

As far as I know, the rumor was that some teams, maybe Detroit, Chicago and the Clippers were set to offer around 6yrs at $72 million. 6yrs $80 million would have been fair on both sides.

Isles, how can you blame Isiah for putting every nail in the coffin when Layden traded away the Nene pick and Camby for damaged goods, signed Clarence Weatherspoon to a MLE and gave Shandon Anderson and Howard Eisley two of the most ridiculous contract extensions of all time? Not to mention his poor handling of the Sprewell situation, which, granted was not handled well by Sprewell or Dolan but good have been defused by a better GM. How can you kill Isiah for everyone pick he traded away when Layden traded away three first rounders in three years from 2000 to 2002?

I'm not saying Isiah gets a pass because Layden was so awful, but at least Isiah has brought in a Hall of Fame, high profile coach, drafted well, traded picks for actual young talent like Marbury, Curry, and he essentially got Crawford for free. He handled Houston's and JYD's retirements well so that both players are still with the organization and saved the team the maximum ammount of money possible on those two retirements. He handled the Herb Williams thing well, which could have been very ugly. Isiah has done a good job. Obviously, the results have yet to show up on the court, but I think it's ridiculous to say that adding two quality young big men in Frye and Curry and a slew of complimentary players is adding hammering the nails in our coffin. It's called giving this franchise a future. You can argue with his methods, and with the gift of hindsight pick a path that looks better now, but I think he has done a good job winning the fans back and building a young, talented team with one of the best coaches in the game leading them. In two years. Layden's first two years were spent turning Patrick Ewing into Shandon Anderson and Howard Eisley, destroying our cap for the foreseeable future and trading away every pick we ever got.

Posted by Nalod:

Isiah bought in TWO hall of fame coaches!

haha. touche. I actually thought Lenny did a hell of a job. For all the talk of selfish Marbury, Lenny's first game here Marbury had 7pts and 18assists and it was a blow out win. He wasn't a good defensive coach and the team imploded in January 05 when the injuries hit, but he did a good job.