I remember you were high on him last year and were hoping he'd go pro but he didn't. He led the U over NC yesterday and was 4 of 7 from downtown. What kind of player is he and is he a guy the Knicks could take at the back end of the first w/ the Spurs pick to shore up that guard rotation? Or is he too similar to Nate?

If you were to ask me, which I know your not but too bad When I see Diaz, he reminds me alot of Salim Stoudamire although Diaz has a vertical leap that is absolutely out of this world. Diaz is a great shooter from downtown, not as silky smooth of a jumper as Salim but he's still very very good from downtown. The problem with him is that he's 6'2 and not good at running an offense and that could be a problem for him at the next level where if he's playing SG he's going to be giving up 4 inches on a nightly basis to SG's, unless he learns how to run an offense better. The jumper and the vertical leap is what has scouts drooling though.

Brandon Roy would be a nice choice. I am sure Nate would love this. If the KNicks could move Q, this guy would a nice and cheaper replacement. Ronnie Brewer would have been nice but I wouldn't give up Curry for him.

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Posted by Pharzeone:

Brandon Roy would be a nice choice. I am sure Nate would love this. If the KNicks could move Q, this guy would a nice and cheaper replacement. Ronnie Brewer would have been nice but I wouldn't give up Curry for him.

like i said on another thread, roy is likely to go above us. i was hot on hilton, but he is charging up to lotto status.
im back to the guy i liked last year at 30 along with nate and branden rush--eric williams we have to realize we are losing davis and taylor is in the last year of his contract. bigs are SO much harder to get than SF's i mean think, we couldve gotten gerald wallace at 23 years old for an mle---we only got curry because of his heart--otherwise look how hard it is getting bigs. i dont see a player better than eric williams at 28 or so. kind of like boozer, this guy is being over--looked because of his 6-8 1/2 height status and playing 5. I poo-poo that and look at his play in the ACC where he has dominated the last two years hes in awesome shape a real under rated caliber talent.
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do we need another 6-8 PF? I mean, seriously, Davis might be back, We have Frye, Williams cant / wont play the 5 for the Knicks, we have Lee, we have Malik Rose, Taylor, and we also have Butler in the pipeline.

Posted by bigbeast:

Briggs, Eric Williams is good, but he's not as good as Boozer. Booaer is way more athletic.

As for Diaz, he reminds me more of Fred Jones with a Jay

Were talking pick 28-29 now, not pick 8-12-15. Eric Williams is quite athletic and owns a 7-4 wingspan. Jackie Butler my arse. Jackie butler is a slow plodding player who may or may not play in the nBA. Eric Williams has led the ACC in FG % the last two years and is a big time player who plays big in big games. Go look at what he has done against Duke the last 3 years.
Eric's last game against a pretty big Clemson team, he had 22 points 20 rebounds 3 steals 2 blocks. When you are 6-8 1/2 with a quick athletic first step and jump and a 7-4 wingspan, you play much bigger. Would I like to have a 6-11 athletic big? Sure, but it wont be there.

Posted by Pharzeone:

I wouldn't mind going in an investment with this pick. I would like take a chance on that Russian kid, Ivan Chirlaev. He has been so hyped up on NBATV and hoopshype.com. I know he got scared last year but he could be worth something in a couple of years. Unless we can get Roy.

no. i dont even want to mess with something like that. whatever decision the knicks make, id prefer them to stay the course and draft more ready made players who have proven themsleves at big time schools. I would love somehow to get Hilton Armstrong, but it would take moving up in the draft and right now if he keeps moving up, then there is no chance. hes the exact player i want for this team. A long athletic powerful antonio davis type player who plays great defense in the post but can also score. Imagine going forward with
Curry
Frye
Armstrong

that being said, its not likely anymore, so I want the best player available and at 28-29, its plausible eric wiliams might be that guy. he brings different things to the table, but hes unique like curry--hes probably an inch and a half shorter than curry, but has many of the same attributes. Hes very athletic for a 285 pound man. Very quick jump--very powerful shoulders and torso. These kinds of guys just intimidate other players. Ive always been a guy who prefers BIGGER more muscular guys on my team. I think it also has shown with taylor curry davis and frye, when you have 4 bigs with size 3 of whom can intimdate with strength and bodyweight, you have a great chance of staying in the game by winning the battle in the post.

Posted by bigbeast:

Briggs- I'm disputing that Willimas won't be a good player in this league, I just disputed your comparison to Boozer. I'll go as far as to say I'll be shocked if Eric Williams is there at 28-29. Williams is a rebounding machine and he reminds me of Sweetney. They have similar builds and are more athletic than they appear. If he's there, he would def. be the best player available but I don't see him being there.

Being that we have a bully-type player in Curry, I would rather add a change of pace big man. Someone who is the poar-opposite of Curry. A player that is tall a long/lanky. Preferably a player that can block shots (we don't have any legit shot blockers) and run the floor like a gazelle. Armstrong would be ideal but the way he is playing now, he would be gone.

Also, I was never that big on Boone. He's a hustle player who will rebound some and a block a few shots, but he is very limited on the Offensive end. Boone reminds me of Gadzuric a llittle.

From what I hear, Boone is likely to stay at Uconn for his 4th year. He's playing hurt right now and it doesnt appear like he will get time to heal this year.

Williams has not been a big rebounding guy, primarily because he wasnt in great shape. But he dedicated the last 1 1/2 to come in in tremendous shape and it really shopws-like i meantioned he had a 22 pt 20 rebound effort last game vs clemson. Hes an under-rated talent and hes only 21. he's led the ACC in FG% the last two years and now leads the NCAA at nearly 70% playing a hard schedule. Josh Howard was kind of dissed as an ACC POY 3 years ago and also went 29 in the draft.
Comparing him to Sweetney--maybe in power but no longer in body--how does this look like Sweetney?

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Posted by Pharzeone:

I wouldn't mind going in an investment with this pick. I would like take a chance on that Russian kid, Ivan Chirlaev. He has been so hyped up on NBATV and hoopshype.com. I know he got scared last year but he could be worth something in a couple of years. Unless we can get Roy.

no. i dont even want to mess with something like that. whatever decision the knicks make, id prefer them to stay the course and draft more ready made players who have proven themsleves at big time schools. I would love somehow to get Hilton Armstrong, but it would take moving up in the draft and right now if he keeps moving up, then there is no chance. hes the exact player i want for this team. A long athletic powerful antonio davis type player who plays great defense in the post but can also score. Imagine going forward with
Curry
Frye
Armstrong

that being said, its not likely anymore, so I want the best player available and at 28-29, its plausible eric wiliams might be that guy. he brings different things to the table, but hes unique like curry--hes probably an inch and a half shorter than curry, but has many of the same attributes. Hes very athletic for a 285 pound man. Very quick jump--very powerful shoulders and torso. These kinds of guys just intimidate other players. Ive always been a guy who prefers BIGGER more muscular guys on my team. I think it also has shown with taylor curry davis and frye, when you have 4 bigs with size 3 of whom can intimdate with strength and bodyweight, you have a great chance of staying in the game by winning the battle in the post.

I think Armstrong will be there. I like Armstrong but I don't think he has the type of upside for a big that would make him worthy enough. I think we should look at the SF spot. Even if we don't move Q, we need someone at that spot who could be instant offense if Q is now going to be the defensive stopper. Unbelievable. Ariza is as good as gone, and Q2 is not the answer. While I would love to get another proven player at that pick, I don't think we should do that in this year's draft. I think we need to take a gamble this year, and if Roy is not there, I would go with Ivan. I remember how bad that Division 1`schools wanted to recruit this guy. He really makes sure that he lets everyone know how bad he wants to play. I think if we give him a guarantee this year he won't pull out.

What about Bobby Jones Jr. from the U of W? Great defensive player. Seems like LB would love him.